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Posted By Discussion Topic: 1933 3 Window Coupe -- page: 1 2     Shelby 08-02-2011 @ 8:27 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 6 Joined: Aug 2011 My vin number tells me my car was a 4cylinder. How do I determine if it is a standard or a deluxe? Also does anyone know the factory add in that year for the rumble seat? deluxe40 08-02-2011 @ 9:58 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 413 Joined: Oct 2009 According to the V8 Club's restoration manual (available on this site and highly recommended) a Deluxe should have: a wood grained dash, ash tray & lighter, two sun visors, chrome windshield frame, two chrome horns, two tail lights, two cowl lights, no parking lights in head lights and two arm rests. Curious that a Standard 3 window was offered in '33 but not in '32 or '34. The rumble seat cost $25 for Standard and Deluxe Coupes and was available on Standard cars on February 16, 1933. This message was edited by deluxe40 on 8-2-11 @ 10:22 AM Shelby 08-02-2011 @ 10:44 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 6 Joined: Aug 2011 to deluxe40. My information shows production for standard and deluxe model 3 window coupes in 1932. I have not looked into 1934? deluxe40 08-02-2011 @ 2:44 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 413 Joined: Oct 2009 I just checked the (new) V8 Club restoration guide for '32 and verified that all 3W coupes were Deluxe and all 5W coupes were Standard for 1932. The V8 Album (1985) shows 32,090 Standard 5W coupes and 22,264 Deluxe 3W Coupes were produced in '32. What documents are you looking at? Shelby 08-04-2011 @ 7:04 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 6 Joined: Aug 2011 deluxe40 I'm not trying to ignore you. I am going to library in Hershey tomorrow. They are associated with AACA Museum. They gave me numbers but not sure what their source was. I will check and get back to you. www.conceptcarz.com for 1933 shows standard and deluxe models in the three window. Old Timer Gallery cars also does. Pricing out there seems to be the only thing that is consistent. I also an seeing articles out there that shows cowl lights were options on both models. My car had no cowl lights. I think it is a standard but not sure. Thanks for your help I really appreciate it. I'll get back. My email address is terrydeaven@nittanybuilding.com ford38v8 08-04-2011 @ 7:26 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2758 Joined: Oct 2009 Shelby, DeLuxe40 is not offering opinion. Your questions are basic and known to be fact. Spend the coin and get the book yourself, available on this website. "1933 - 1934 Ford Book Restoration Guide", 430 pages. Fact not fiction. Alan This message was edited by ford38v8 on 8-4-11 @ 7:29 PM Shelby 08-06-2011 @ 9:48 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 6 Joined: Aug 2011 ford38v8. Thanks for the infomation. I wasn't sure which book would show probuction numbers. I just was at AACA National Headquaters in Hershey PA, their Library has loads of information. One of their reference books they have is "Standard Catalog of American Cars 1805 - 1942. It lists in '32 2Dr Cpe, 2Dr Sport, and 2 Dr Deluxe but does not define 3W or 5W. Obviously I am dogging the '33 information because that is what I have. I have talked to the Research Center at The Henry Ford and have emailed them my questions and verification of production numbers. My vin number is B5191086 of which makes it a Model B 4cyl and they show only Model C production 4 cylinder in '33 and no Model B production. They directed me to the research center to get verification. They are confused as well. I will order the catalog if all my questions I sent in are not addressed. Thanks. CharlieStephens 08-06-2011 @ 10:11 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 888 Joined: Oct 2009 Shelby, What you say is very interesting. It is generally understood that Ford never made a Model C (except for the one in 1903). Does the research center show reference to the Model C in Ford literature of that period or is it from later records (which frequently incorrectly referred to the Model C)? If the reference is from literature of that period it may be a first. Charlie Stephens TomO 08-07-2011 @ 8:37 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7250 Joined: Oct 2009 Ford used the "B" prefix to designate the 4 cylinder motors from 1932-1934. So your car was one of the few 4 cylinder cars made in 1933. Because the pricing of the 33 car included the V-8 with a $50 deduction for installing the 4 cyl. engine, I would guess that your car was a standard. It is unlikely that a someone frugal enough to opt for a 4 cyl, would opt for the Deluxe trim. The people at the archives are not historians, they are librarians. They may be accurate in answers to common questions, because they have looked at the material many times. If you want a definitive answer, you must pay to have a copy of the document covering that area. The 33-34 book will answer many of your questions and the Club's Adviser for the 33 / 34 cars will be able to help you with the rest. Tom ford38v8 08-07-2011 @ 1:19 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2758 Joined: Oct 2009 Shelby, Some of your confusion may be from reading articles in magazines. The authors of those articles are generally hacks or staff writers having no particular interest nor expertise in the cars they write about. They do an hour of research and an hour to hack the article and move on to the next assignment. All DeLuxe Fords came off the assembly line having DeLuxe features. If it was not factory designated as a DeLuxe Ford, it could technically never become a DeLuxe simply by adding bolt-on options. Up until 1937, a Ford could be fitted with any options that were available at the Dealerships. 1938, '39, and '40 had distinctive body lines on DeLuxe Fords, making it impossible to make a DeLuxe Look~a~like simply with add-on options. Beginning in 1941, the designation "Standard" was banished forever, now being known as DeLuxe. A Super DeLuxe was added, and a Special, which was truly a strip-down painted in grey only. You made reference to the "Standard Catalogue Of American Cars", which is a tremendous resource, but understandably cannot devote more than a page or two to any one car of a particular year. I'll say again, the "1933-34 Ford Restoration Guide" is the ultimate resource for your car. Alan

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