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40merc |
07-20-2010 @ 9:30 AM
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does anyone know where to pick up a Cluster gear ( 29/24,18/14) all helical cut for a decent price? i looked at mac's and early ford V8 sales and they are a little pricy, (325$ & 250$ )as well as a low & reverse slider gear? id like to pick up decent used parts so i can save this transmission
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07-20-2010 @ 10:06 AM
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The cluster gear is expensive everywhere. I believe all are now made overseas, as the machinery was exported over the years. Unless the cluster is missing teeth, they can often be reused if the edges of the damaged teeth are carefully smoothed. I suggest you contact my friend Charlie Schwendler, who specializes in transmission rebuilding. 716/662-9159. He may have what you need.
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40merc |
07-20-2010 @ 11:43 AM
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Yeah, im afraid this cluster is no good, there are three teeth where half or more is missing, and the rest of the teeth are extremely worn on one side of the gear that matches the reverse gear. i can immagine this is from some one trying to adjust the clutch or forcing it into gear ( i could imagine this is common?). i would love to reuse the cluster, but i don't really have the desire to take it apart again for repairs. the tranny was bad off when i pulled it out. years of neglect and a big pile of metal shavings inside along with the milk chocolate oil mud inside. after dipping the housing i noticed theres what looks like a wheep/breather hole on the top left side of the tranny? above the linkage on a sideloader. is this a factory made hole or did some one create this? also since im on the subject, on the top of the bell housing there's a number with stars and it reads 99a- (is this original to the 40 merc?) and on the b ack of the housing where the bearing housing bolts on it reads 01A, anyone have any explanation for this? thanks!
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07-20-2010 @ 12:18 PM
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Another good source for good used transmission parts is Mac VanPelt. His website is http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_home.htm
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supereal |
07-20-2010 @ 4:22 PM
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01A is the transmission case used from '40 thru '48. I don't recall a breather on the top of a side shift box, but I don't have one out of a car to look at. It is hard enough to keep oil in those transmissions, anyway. I agree with JM that Van Pelt may have your parts. Another good source is Don Baxter, 785/842-9256. Good guy who knows his stuff, and fair prices.
This message was edited by supereal on 7-22-10 @ 8:08 AM
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TomO |
07-21-2010 @ 7:22 AM
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There should be a breather on the transmission. The serial number stamped on the transmission is for a car with the 239 cu in motor. To determine the year go to: http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_serialnumbers.htm
Tom
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40merc |
07-21-2010 @ 3:25 PM
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always interesting to find out what the numbers mean i think! thanks for the link.... i picked up a borg warner cluster for the tranny today, $189 new. and a really decent used (almost new) Low & reverse for 15$ here in town as well as a small parts kit!!! awesome deal. but it still added up (As it always does)
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Stroker |
07-21-2010 @ 4:26 PM
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Changing-out clusters and low-reverse sliders was for me and most of my contemporary Ford compadre's an almost weekly task (usually on Sunday after "too-many" on Saturday night. We'd go to the "yards" and buy all the transmissions we could find, just to have a steady supply of these expendable parts. In 1954, you could buy just about any flattie transmission for less than $15.00 a pop. I had a homemade spring spreader, which I'd loan to my buddies, because it was quicker to take the rearend loose from the shackles than it was to drop the spring out from the rear cross-member. It was almost like a weekly pit-stop. This was in So.Cal., so if you are looking for clusters, in this area, we beat you to them! Given the effects of inflation in the past 56 years, I think you made out "like a bandit". Glad you could find some non-Chinese parts to install in your trusty case! And.....don't run a hot-rodded Chrysler Hemi 356 ahead of your vintage driveline..EVER!
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40merc |
07-21-2010 @ 7:36 PM
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yeah that woul be crazy way to much power for that tranny. im HOPING i can make this transmission last me afew years , ulimatly i would love to adapt a T-5, but id really love to enjoy a rebuilt flatty trans till then.
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supereal |
07-22-2010 @ 7:50 AM
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One of my first cars was a rickety Model A tudor which was the transport to high school. It was a remarkably tough car, but tended to have transmission trouble in the hilly town where I lived. Finally, we transplanted a V8 into the car, and never had a problem afterward. It appears that the huge flywheel in the four banger was the source of the problem, as it had to be wound up to get the car moving, and the kinetic energy was simply too much for the gears to handle. The V8 introduced the typical clutch "shudder", but reduced the trips to the "junkyard".
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