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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / 3speed trans parts

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supereal
11-13-2010 @ 9:49 AM
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Gotta love those sedan coupes! I had a '46 with a flat six that could beat the 8's. The only problem was a buzzing sound in the engine when it was revved. I never found the source before a '50 Merc took its place. I'm glad Charlie fixed you up, as I expected.

silverchief
11-12-2010 @ 3:13 PM
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Supereal,

The transmission from my 46 is on the way back from Charlie Schwendler as we speak. After reading all these questions about what goes where, and should this or that do thus and so - I am glad I took your advice and went with Charlie. As with any specialist - more than parts and labor, you are paying him principally for what he knows. No headaches, and you know it is done right. A bargain.

trjford8
07-25-2010 @ 8:51 PM
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40merc, take a look at the disc brake kits sold by Magnum Axle, ECI or Master Power Brakes. I've used the Magnum kit and they will make your car stop on a dime. These kits are easy to install and you can convert to a dual master cylinder.Much easier than installing a Mustang II.

sturgis 39
07-25-2010 @ 7:43 PM
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THERE IS NO CLEANER LOOKING FRONT END THAN A STRAIGHT AXLE. IF I WAS AFRAID OF STOPPING AN OLD FORD I WOULD INSTALL DISC BRAKES ON THE FRONT AXLE. THIS WOULD NOT REQUIRE CUTTING UP THE FRAME. THEY ALSO MAKE POWER BUSTERS THAT CAN BE MOUNTED REMOTE OR ON THE MASTER CYLINDER.

NICE LOOKING 37 RAGTOP. I WOULD PAY A LOT MORE FOR YOUR CAR THAN ONE WITH A MUSTANG TWO FRONT END. OLD ORIGINAL FORDS WILL GAIN MORE VALUE THAN HACKED UP HOT RODS WITH TRENDY ITEMS. NONE CUT CARS ARE GETTING HARDER TO FIND.

40merc
07-25-2010 @ 3:58 PM
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yeah the cluster is binding on the main drive, the oil baffle is positioned so that the bearing can spin freely when it is inside the housing. so the lip of the baffle isnt touching the outer edge of the bearing but it is touching the inside of the bearing that grabs the shaft.

i took the thick thrust washer out and tried it again to see if i could even find a place where the cluster would spin free. no such luck. also put a micrometer on the thrust washers to check for an even thickness. it has to be the cluster.

supereal
07-25-2010 @ 3:03 PM
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Is the cluster binding the input shaft, or the other way around? If the front slinger is backwards, with the outer lip facing forward, it will bind the shaft. Also, be sure your cluster is, in fact, the correct part with the right number of teeth. They tend to all look alike. There are a dozen versions. A chart is on page 292 of the green book.

40merc
07-25-2010 @ 9:46 AM
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also i should note, that when the counter shaft is inserted in the cluster, just before the shaft is inserted into the housing on the front end of the housing it spins freely. once it is inserted and aligned is when it binds up.

40merc
07-25-2010 @ 9:37 AM
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yeah i actually got new trust washers and needle bearings for the cluster... i put the old cluster in with the new parts, and it works fine, at first i thought it might be the main drive bearing or one of the new needle bearings but its not, i also rolled the counter shaft on a level surface to see if it was warped and its stright as an arrow.
i just went out and tried it again with day light, and its wearing more on one end of the cluster then the other at the main drive. its not impossible to turn, but it doesnt feel right. real forced about 180deg. through a full rotation.

just seems odd to me. borg warner is purtty good as far as parts go i thought? maybe the case is warped? hard for me to immagine a cluster getting warped, but maybe it was dropped at some point in its life?

and as far as the MII front end goes, i understand the concerns about it, and ive had the car for 20 years so ive had plenty of time to think about it. and i would love for it to be my around town car, but with traffic, it would be, in my oppinion, insane to drive that car with juice breaks through heavly congested areas, i would like to see this car live another day not be wrecked because i couldent stop in time because some dimwhit pulled out infront of me. if i lived in the country it would be another story.

37RAGTOPMAN
07-25-2010 @ 8:45 AM
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STURGIS 39
you are correct, if you want a modern car, BUY ONE,
LEAVE THE OLD DISAPEARING FORDS alone,
soon there will be no more, just check E-BAY for guys that thought they wanted to be cool and wanted a street- hot rod and once completed or half way done, when much damaged was down to the orginal body,
have it FOR SALE,
This is for all makes, the other day I saw a guy with a 1937 DESOTO AIRFLOW , with a CHEVY 350 IN IT,
IT was nicely done but this was a VERY RARE CAR,GONE FOREVER, and there are many like this,
just my opinon.
only thing on my 37 is JUICE BRAKES,which was done before I bought it and I installed dual exhausts,
still 6 VOLTS after 73 years, and just run with the same FUEL PUMP ,that HENRY FORD installed,
SEE PICTURE....
KEEP ON TRUCKIN 37 RAGTOPMAN

supereal
07-25-2010 @ 8:42 AM
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Check the roller bearings inside the cluster to see if they are binding or broken, and that the long and short bearings haven't be switched. They are not identical. Also, be sure the thrust washers on each side of the cluster are correct and in place.

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