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doning |
09-17-2011 @ 4:38 PM
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Ok. I can't believe this happened today! He's my story. I took my 37 Ford to it's first car show today and had a great time. I started it up and headed home which was about a 3 minute drive and just before I got to my driveway I heard what sounded like a dry bearing noise coming from the engine. I idled it in the garage and the light bearing noise would come and go. I could not find out where it was coming from. The car had oil pressure, the temp was at 160 and it idled and took the gas well. It sounded great except for this little bearing like sound. The water level was up and the oil level is fine. After giving it some gas to look for the noise I shut it off. Five minutes later I thought I would restart it and take it for a drive and see if the noise would go away. I turned on the ignition switch and hit the starter button and all I got was click, click, click. The battery was ok. Here's what I cannot believe happened! For the heck of it I decided to turn the engine over by hand and it's locked up! Tight as a drum. There were NO warning signs of this engine seizing up. I thought before an engine would seize it would make some sort of noise or overheat. Any chance that maybe the starter bendix is locking the flywheel bacause it didn't kick back. Any ideas??? Thanks. Don
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09-17-2011 @ 5:09 PM
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I am assuming it is a 21 stud engine 85 hp.but it really does not matter, turning the engine over by hand,is this with a wrench on the crankshaft nut,or by trying to move it with fan,? if it is indeed seized up,you can remove the starter and see if it is was a hanging up bendix drive, if after removing the starter it still does not turn over, REMOVE the oil pan, the bearing that is seized should be the dry one,or maybe discolored. get back to us with more info hope this helps 37RAGTOPMAN
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doning |
09-17-2011 @ 5:17 PM
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37RAGTOPMAN: The engine is a 85 HP. I tried to turn the engine over with a socket on the crankshaft nut. I cannot believe the engine itself is seized. It acted perfectly normal except for the sound of a dry roller bearing noise.
This message was edited by doning on 9-17-11 @ 5:20 PM
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09-17-2011 @ 5:20 PM
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Doning, So sorry to hear that. Tell me, the solenoid click... Was there a sound or a thump immediately prior to the first solenoid click? If so, then I'd think as you did, the bendix. If no thump, then I think your engine should turn over again after cool down, which in itself is not a good sign, as that would indicate a tear down to resolve, possibly a crank bearing clearance issue. I hope it's the bendix!
Alan
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ford38v8 |
09-17-2011 @ 5:23 PM
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Doning, THe main caps are coded to install only one way. All three should have a match mark on the cap and the block.
Alan
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doning |
09-17-2011 @ 5:29 PM
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There was no thump. Just a click, click, click of the solenoid. I had a friend hit the starter button as I was just under the starter itself and I could here the slamming of something in the area. I didn't really here another strange under the oil pan.
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09-17-2011 @ 5:31 PM
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The slamming? Maybe the thump I refferred to? That woiuld be the bendix, good news? Alan
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doning |
09-17-2011 @ 5:33 PM
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ford38v8: I rebuild the engine 8 years ago which was the first part of my restoration. I've put over 200 miles on the motor on my first year driving it. Wouldn't this have happened earlier?
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ford38v8 |
09-17-2011 @ 5:41 PM
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Don, Yes, that's good news. Sounds like your first idea is correct! Did you have the brace from stareter front to oil pan? This is a small angled piece held in place by a starter main bolt, and an oil pan screw.
Alan
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doning |
09-17-2011 @ 5:43 PM
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No. I have no brace. Just the two bolts holding the starter on.
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