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Posted By Discussion Topic: Marvel Mystery Oil / Ampco Top Cylinder Lubricator -- page: 1 2     foto1man 08-04-2011 @ 4:30 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 49 Joined: Jul 2011 I have '35 Phaeton. I seen on You Tube a video about Marvel Mystery Oil and the Ampco Top Cylinder Lubricators. Are these recognized as proper equipment. Where under the hood would one mount the system? I also have a Columbia Two-Speed rear end. Meaning there's already a vacuum plate in place between the carb and the manifold for the rear end. Any thoughts?? BrianCT 08-04-2011 @ 5:47 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 95 Joined: Oct 2009 I find it easier to just ad a few ozs to gas. MG 08-04-2011 @ 6:26 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1260 Joined: Nov 2009 I agree with BrianCT. ford38v8 08-04-2011 @ 7:13 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2763 Joined: Oct 2009 foto, if you want to install one, it can do no harm, but as the others have said, it's easy to add MMM to your gas tank. The upside of that is of course your underhood isn't cluttered up, but also, it helps stabilize the modern gas, and provides a level of rust protection to your tank and fuel line. If you want the era funk look, the glass bottle looks neat mounted on your custom bracket, and you better believe guys will check to see you used existing holes to mount it! The Columbia vacuum plate will be perfect, just employ a brass T adapter, also available from Ampco. http://ampcolubes.com/index.php?content=products Alan supereal 08-04-2011 @ 7:14 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 Top oilers were a popular accessory in the 40's and 50's. They mostly oiled the money out of your wallet, in my opinion. As said, if you have sticky valves, MMO in the gas may help. However, using it regularly will likely cause spark plug fouling, which was a reason oilers went out of style. supereal 08-04-2011 @ 7:15 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 Top oilers were a popular accessory in the 40's and 50's. They mostly oiled the money out of your wallet, in my opinion. As said, if you have sticky valves, MMO in the gas may help. However, using it regularly will likely cause spark plug fouling, which was a reason oilers went out of style. flatheadfan 08-05-2011 @ 2:31 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 450 Joined: Oct 2009 foto1man- I have one on my '35. It does seem to quiet the engine and I haven't noticed any oil fouling of the plugs. The Ampco unit does allow for flow adjustment if oil fouling does become a problem. When I installed the oiler I made up a bracket which utilizes the two radio bolts. No holes were drilled. Also on this bracket I have a voltage regulator for the two brush generator I am using instead of the trouble-prone three brush generator. By using the radio bolts I can easily remove the bracket, the oiler and regulator in seconds for show purposes or engine work, if needed. Last Summer I had my '35 in a local show. Next to my '35 was a '55 Chevy with enough engine chrome that you literally needed sun glasses to view the engine. The irony of the situation was the crowd was consistently congregating around my lowly flathead wondering what the "red oil jug" was for! The neighboring Chevy's owner was beginning to assume the roll of a "Magtag repair man." In another show I saw an early Ford with an oiler attached to the firewall. On the bottle was the label "Viagra!" That must of put a lot of smiles on people's faces! Would I put an oiler on my car again? Yup! Even if it is nothing more than the fun they create. Tom This message was edited by flatheadfan on 8-5-11 @ 6:32 AM foto1man 08-05-2011 @ 5:07 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 49 Joined: Jul 2011 Thanks everyone, Tom, I enjoyed your post. If I were to install one I don't think I would drill new holes in the firewall either as your suggest. Your installation using existing bolts or screws is a great idea. Does yours go into a vacuum plate between the carb and intake manifold? I also noticed in your picture, thank you by the way, there's what looks to be an oil filter. How does that work? Kenneth Hatcher flatheadfan 08-05-2011 @ 6:13 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 450 Joined: Oct 2009 Kenneth- Yes, I have a vacuum plate under the carb (note the picture). Actually, I have two plates. One is for the oiler the other is for a '57 vacuum booster (another no-drill addition), as part of my hydraulic brake system. The booster gives me brakes that in my opinion rivals many a new car. As for the by-pass oil filter, a lot of guys think they are useless but in defense of the filter it does seem to do something. Every time I change the filter I see it has picked up some crud that is no longer circulating in the engine. Also, consider auto producers used this type of system up until 1957 when the full-flow system became standard. Obviously, the full-flow system is superior but the old by-pass system must of had some value or it wouldn't have had the longevity it did have. Hope this helps. Tom wmsteed 08-05-2011 @ 8:52 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 613 Joined: Oct 2009 I guess that Super and I have been around to long.. There was a time in the past when every huckster in the world was selling some gadget, either a water injector, oil injector and or propeller thing-a-jigs to mount between the carb and manifold, at the State/County Fairs to add onto your engine to improve mileage, performance, etc. These gadget's did a very good job of draining the customers pockets, with no proven benefit to an engine. Marvel Mystery is a great product, I have used it for years.. Adding a little bit to the fuel now and then can be a good thing... If an engine is going to be taken out of service for a prolonged period of time I usually pore MMO down the carb to keep the cylinders from rusting and/or the pistons getting stuck. I have also used MMO with great results on engines that have not been ran for many years. Pore it down the carb, let the MMO sit for several days, then pull the plugs and crank the engine over... If a top cylinder lubricator was a good idea, they would be standard equipment on all cars. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe

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