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Posted By Discussion Topic: Order, Manufacture and Shipping Under Lend Lease -- page: 1 2 3     Ron Schram 10-13-2023 @ 12:02 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 14 Joined: Jul 2022 We are trying to obtain information on the the manufacture and ordering of our 1941, Super Deluxe, 4 Door, Code 11A-73B, Serial number 7E111367. This car has 17,000 original miles, original Alkyd Canadian Military Specification paint, Heater delete, heavy duty springs and was a Royal Canadian Air Force Staff car, probably provided through Lend Lease. The Serial Number would seem to indicate American Manufacture slated for export. ford38v8 10-13-2023 @ 7:20 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2765 Joined: Oct 2009 That’s something to be proud of! Very good looking car. I’m sure you know more than I do about the correctness, but I’m surprised at the fact that It has all the brightwork that an American Staff Car would not. How solid is your information on it’s history? Alan Ron Schram 10-14-2023 @ 10:05 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 14 Joined: Jul 2022 The Canadian Ford Staff cars came from two manufacturing sources. The ones made by Ford of Canada were built to British Staff Car standards and were painted Olive Drab, were right hand drive, had slit head lights and tail lamps, some had leather upholstery, had no brightwork as well as the order requirements of our car. The British Commonwealth Air Training Plan was created to begin training aircrew in 1941 as an emergency program. Since this equipment was only going to be used in Canada and since war production was already maximized, it was decided to purchased vehicles made in Canada and from US production. Most RCAF vehicles serving in Canada were painted with special Alkyd Blue paint, ordered without heaters, with heavy duty springs, had cigar lighters and had a Identification tag riveted beside the Voltage regulator. Canadian made cars were Standard or Deluxe and US made were Super Deluxe. Ron Schram 10-14-2023 @ 10:33 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 14 Joined: Jul 2022 An Interesting Footnote: In 1941 DeHaviland of Canada began aircraft production in Ontario. The first 200 Tiger Moth biplanes were ordered by the US Army Air Corps. After the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Air Corps gave those airplanes to the RCAF when assembled and the Air Corps then made a deal for Canada to train several thousand US Aircrew at our British Commonwealth Air Training Plan bases. Many of the 136,000 aircrew trained here were Americans. We had a dual serial numbered Tiger Moth here. Early planes and vehicles were delivered to Canada under Lend Lease set up by President Roosevelt. Later equipment was produced in Canada under license from North American Aviation, Lockheed etc. We are trying to source the manufacture and shipping information on our particular car. ford38v8 10-14-2023 @ 8:47 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2765 Joined: Oct 2009 Ron, this is an example of the best benefit of being here on this website, where even those who ask questions have invaluable knowledge to share with others! Thank you for that education! Alan Ron Schram 10-16-2023 @ 9:20 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 14 Joined: Jul 2022 Hi Allan, Thanks for the kind words! It is a sharing process. Any suggestions on how we might obtain the information we are seeking? Ron ford38v8 10-16-2023 @ 10:28 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2765 Joined: Oct 2009 Ron, there are no records that I know of for original Stateside purchases, but you might get lucky and find something by way of the Freedom of Information Act, going back to the Lend-Lease period. Other than that, an educated guess of the origin being the Dearborn Assembly plant, or the Rouge. Alan 42wagon 10-16-2023 @ 2:24 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 585 Joined: Oct 2009 The serial number you have given does not appear to be an engine assembled at the Rouge engine plant. If a V8 the number should be 18- 5896295 or higher. If a 6 cylinder engine it would start with 1GA-1 or higher. If that is the serial number and not some sort of body number it is probably manufactured in Canada Ron Schram 10-17-2023 @ 5:35 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 14 Joined: Jul 2022 The highly rated appraisal firm we hired, believed that this Serial 7E111367 indicated US production and the 7 was a Staff Car and the E signified Export. Is it possible that Ford was required by the Government to run separate Serial Number ranges for Lend Lease vehicles? That number is clearly stamped into the Firewall, above the Voltage Regulator. An 1941 Ford RCAF Staff car, Standard model that has been verified to have been manufactured by Ford of Canada has the Serial number 2A232, stamped in the same location as our car. Ron Schram 10-17-2023 @ 5:50 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 14 Joined: Jul 2022 I made a typing error and put too many 1's in the Serial. It is 7E11367.

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