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Toybox225
07-12-2017 @ 12:08 PM
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I have a 1941 Ford coupe with a serial number on title of 18-6264418. I have nothing on the body and a number on the frame that don't match the title. Can any one help me with what body type I have? I know it's a 11A but that's all I can find.

woodiewagon46
07-12-2017 @ 12:34 PM
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The 11A numbers that you are referring to are, 11A-67A For the Deluxe Coupe and 11A-67B for the Super Deluxe Coupe. That is just the model number and should have nothing with the title. The number on the frame is located on the drivers side, near the front crossmember. That is the number that should be on your title. The original engine number is also stamped on the top front of the transmission just above the inspection plate. That number and the frame number should match. Good luck!

42wagon
07-12-2017 @ 12:49 PM
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For 1941 there were three coupes and several of them were in both the Deluxe and Super Deluxe lines. There was the coupe with no back seat Deluxe 11A-77A, Super Deluxe 11A-77B, and Special 11A-77C Next was the coupe with jump seats Deluxe 11A-67A, Super Deluxe 11A-67B, Finally the sedan coupe with full back seat Super Deluxe 11A-72. So depending on your seat arrangement and trim you can determine what coupe you have. You will not find a code anywhere on the car.

What is more troubling is the fact that your title does not match your car. You haven't told us what your circumstances are. Is the car currently registered? If not how do you prove that the car is in fact the one described by the title paper? If you intend to sell it at some point how do you prove to the buyer that the car is in fact yours? I would make it a priority project to clarify that you own the car you are standing next to.

len47merc
07-12-2017 @ 12:53 PM
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Dovetailing with woodiewagon46, refer to this webpage:

http://vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_serialnumbers.htm

From your serial number one can ONLY conclude the TITLE references a car likely made mid-year 1941. Check the window bugs on any of your original glass to see if this 'foots'. Additionally, check the number on the frame against the sequence.

Really strange the number on the frame does not match the title. Absolutely would not fly here in NC.

Additionally, following are all the Vehicle Legends for 1941 COUPES:

11A-67A Deluxe Coupe w/Jump Seats
11A-67B Super Deluxe Coupe w/Jump Seats
11A-72B Super Deluxe Sedan Coupe
11A-76B Super Deluxe Convertible Club Coupe
11A-77A Deluxe Coupe
11A-77B Super Deluxe Coupe
11A-77C Special Coupe

One of these numbers should be found somewhere on your title. If not, you'll have to do some sleuthing on each of these models above to find the items of originality that correspond with the appropriate model above to get your answer.

Were it me I'd get your title mess cleaned up now - selling that puppy could be a bear when the time comes.


Steve

woodiewagon46
07-12-2017 @ 2:47 PM
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As 42wagon states, the issue is that the chassis number and title don't match. Very often a worn out motor will be replaced but not a chassis. Unfortunately if the numbers don't match you might have to deal with your local DMV.

silverchief
07-12-2017 @ 3:24 PM
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My 46 was registered in Michigan, and Ohio by previous owners and by me in Illinois.
No problem. When I moved to Colorado, in order to obtain a new title and plates, I was required to have a state trooper verify that there was some sort of number on my car that matched it's title. If not I was required to have the car appraised, and post a bond based on that value to insure it was not stolen. The number on the frame was no longer legible, and there was no number legible on the top of the transmission. In order to bypass the requirement of an appraisal and bond, I had to take the car to the local state police post where they riveted a tag on my doorframe with an automobile identification number.
They gave me verifying paperwork which I had to take to the main office of the DMV, where I paid the necessary costs and was assured my title and plates would be in the mail.
What I received was a letter saying because I had not had my car appraised and posted a bond, I would not be receiving title and plates. The governor has a "citizen's help" office
at the state capitol. I wrote a detailed letter explaining my problem and dropped it off. Two weeks later I stopped back. They had done nothing. On my way out of the building I passed by the office of the state representative for my district. He was not in but his secretary took a copy of my letter and said she would be sure he saw it. 48 hours later a got a phone call from the DMV advising my plates and title were in the mail....and they
were. Altogether I made 6 visits to various DMV offices, (take a number) and made numerous phone calls to them in an unsuccessful effort to solve my problem. In the end all it took was ten minutes with the right person. A lesson learned.


TomO
07-12-2017 @ 4:57 PM
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Toybox225,

Are you having problems registering the car? Are you just looking to identify the body style?

How different are the numbers on the frame from the title? Are you just missing some numbers or are all of the numbers there but not correct?

Ford did not use body numbers on the bodies that they built until after 1948 models.

The serial number that you provided falls in the range of 1941 serial numbers.

The serial number uses the letter I for the numeral 1

Tom

Toybox225
07-13-2017 @ 4:29 AM
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In Ohio I need a car dealership to inspect the title and the serial number. This car was a mess when I got it. No motor no trans the front end and rear ends have been cut off and dodge parts welded on. I will get the number on frame and post. Thanks for everyone help. Oh the only glass is in the doors.

len47merc
07-13-2017 @ 4:40 AM
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If it is the original glass the window bugs, if the glass is original, will show the date of manufacture of the car (month and year). The '41-'48 Ford Book has a very good description of how to read them.

Steve

Toybox225
07-13-2017 @ 8:23 AM
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Ok thank you Steve

I will look tonight.

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