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len47merc

07-05-2016 @ 12:55 PM

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Following are a few pics of Dennis Carpenter's rear window seal on my '47's rear glass prior to install into the car. DC states all of their seals currently in inventory have these attributes and they are working with their manufacturing group on a solution. Holding off on installing in the car until a better option is available. Their current seals exhibit two negative attributes:

1) Inner seal against the headliner has a bulge in it where the seal is fused together (1st photo here). Everything in stock has this attribute and they've no solution for it - statement coming back to me is '...that's just the way it is...' with the manufacturing process

2) At the right and left sides of the window the outer seal's surface that mates to the window - all of which is supposed to be sealed to the glass prior to installation in the car - stands proud 1/4" - 1/2" off the glass at rest, making sealing with window adhesive virtually impossible. This returns to this same position whether rolling the edge around the window or trying to rotate the seal to a new position around the window

Carpenter went through their inventory and selected the 'best one of the lot' to send me as a replacement but that even that will have some degree of this problem with the inner seal.

FYI for anyone looking to purchase this seal from DC. They have been fine to work with on this and the relationship with them is very positive. Just posting this to save anyone else from having to deal with the issue until a solution is found and inventory is corrected.

Steve

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07-05-2016 @ 12:57 PM

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Same pic properly rotated. The glass is in the seal in all pics.

Steve

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07-05-2016 @ 1:08 PM

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Second pic.

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Third pic.

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07-05-2016 @ 5:17 PM

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I went thru this same exercise with the Carpenter group.
Bought their rear window seals for a '40 coupe, did not fit, about 1 1/2 " too long.
Lots of conversation with various folks from Carpenter. They said I had a problem, nothing wrong with their product, but they would take them back if I paid the shipping.
I kept them, cut about an 1 1/2" out of each & glued back together. A real piece of junk.
Doing the mods allowed me to drive the car until the Bob Drake seals arrived.
Do yourself a favor, buy BOB DRAKE seals, they fit.

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07-05-2016 @ 5:34 PM

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Ouch. Interestingly I called Drake earlier today and had them send me pics of one of their seals from inventory. If the replacement from Carpenter is no better than the first one they shipped then both will be going back and I'll go to Drake, at least for this seal.

In contrast to your experience DC at least acknowledged the issues are theirs and inherent in their manufacturing process for this particular seal. This is the first real quality control issue for me with them.

Will follow-up with observations of the replacement seal when received.

Steve

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07-06-2016 @ 8:04 AM

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You can also try Steele Rubber Products if Drake is out of stock.

http://www.steelerubber.com/rear-window-gasket-20-1668-81

Tom

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07-06-2016 @ 8:26 AM

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42 merc, there's two different rear window seals for a 40. One is for the coupe and one for sedans. The sedan rear window is bigger and they may have sent you the sedan seal.

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07-06-2016 @ 8:54 AM

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This mayby the problem but they surely have had enough complaints by now to ship the correct ones. I had this same problem in 2007 on my '37 coupe rear window seal from DC,to large for the opening,sent me another and it was the same. Ordered Bob Drakes and fit very well as did the windshield seal. Over 30 years ago I bought all Dennis Carpenter window seals for a '53 F-100 and they were great quality and fit and why I went with them first on my '37. It just must be some kind of quality control issue they have now and will not address like the floppy '37 Ford radio antennae.

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I am aware of the sizes of seals for the '40.
The problem lies with Carpenter and their unwillingness to acknowledge that there really is a problem.

Kube was on the Ford Barn a couple of months ago carping about this same problem with Carpenter rear window seals.

Don

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