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Posted By Discussion Topic: 36 engine, early or late model? -- page: 1 2     80artk 05-17-2015 @ 3:36 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 9 Joined: May 2013 I would like to know if the engine in my 36 is the early model or the late model. The car's VIN No. is 3246728 if that will help. All info appreciated. TonyM 05-17-2015 @ 4:09 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 459 Joined: Sep 2010 According to the Early Ford V-8 Club of America 1935-1936 Ford Book, at the time of manufacture your car was fitted with the engine / transmission unit that was produced in August of 1936. When this engine/trans combo was produced, the number 3246728 was stamped on the transmission housing. When this engine/trans combo was installed into a 1936 Ford frame/chassis, that number was stamped onto the frame in three places. The August 1936 production run of V-8 engine/transmission combinations are 3209944 thru 3281836. . . . 78-730B 80artk 05-17-2015 @ 6:45 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 9 Joined: May 2013 Thanks for that information! That is good to know. However, because I do not know when (month) they began installing the later engines, I still do not know which engine my car has. TonyM 05-17-2015 @ 9:37 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 459 Joined: Sep 2010 According to the Early Ford V-8 Club of America's 1935-1936 Ford Book production of engines for the 1936 model year ended in September of 1936. . . . 78-730B TomO 05-18-2015 @ 6:06 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7258 Joined: Oct 2009 Here is a link to flathead engine block identification photos. http://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25301&highlight=flathead+block+differences&showall=1 The Early Ford V-8 Foundation Museum also sells a book on the evolution of the flathead V-8. http://www.fordv8foundation.org/store.html Tom nelsb01 05-18-2015 @ 6:41 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 986 Joined: Oct 2009 You could also look on the top of the block (driver's side front) for the stamping of LB. If that is visible, it will be considered near the end of the 1936 engine build, due to the fact that it has insert bearings. CharlieStephens 05-18-2015 @ 11:26 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 894 Joined: Oct 2009 First let me establish my (lack of) credentials. I have never owned a 1936 Ford, although I have had several ‘32’s and a ’37. I read a lot. Now you know what weight to put on my comments (do I hear trash can?). What is the difference between an early and a late 1936 engine? I am sure there were a lot of changes to the small bolt on stuff based on my experience with restoration in the 1932 year. Are you are trying to establish that you have insert bearings? The inserted bearing engine came out in September 1935 (ref page 23 of “The Early Ford V8 As Henry built It) and was produced in parallel with the babbit engines. If there is another difference between early and late please ignore me and forgive my ignorance. Charlie Stephens This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 5-18-15 @ 10:46 PM ford38v8 05-18-2015 @ 12:58 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2771 Joined: Oct 2009 I hope Charlie Stephens doesn't get ignored! He is correct, I believe, although I wasn't there either! Logic tells us that the babbitt blocks were phased out at some point, but without my 35-36 book handy, I don't know if the last serial number is recorded anywhere. With regard to Bruce's mention of the LB stamp on the block, I and many others have a set of stamps that could be used to fake such a marking. Just sayin'... Alan trjford8 05-19-2015 @ 7:47 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 4229 Joined: Oct 2009 To add a little more confusion, even though your frame and transmission number match it does not mean you have an LB engine. At some point over time the motor may have been changed/replaced and it may have been with a non-insert motor. The only real way to tell is to pull the pan and look. drkbp 05-20-2015 @ 11:31 AM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 180 Joined: Aug 2010 80artk, A lot of 1936 and earlier Fords have replacement engines in them. I drove my '35 Cabriolet to the office today and had to look at it while making a post above. It has the original engine and transmission complete and that seems to be a bit unusual. Really, the first question to answer is: Is your engine a 1936? The answer may very well be yes but we can't tell from this thread. A picture can show early V8 21-stud. The rest is pretty much take apart time. I do have an LB as a spare out of a late 1936 4-door. The 1937 21-stud engine is the favorite replacement engine for '33 to '36 Ford V8's. It is an inserted main bearing like the LB's of late 1936. It also allows you to put the early heads on the engine to "look" correct, hoses and all. They are a lot easier to find than a good early block. The 1938 to 1948's will work too but the hoses have to run from the center of the head. Ken in Texas

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