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Posted By Discussion Topic: 1937 FORD ID PLATE ? -- page: 1 2     wmsteed 01-30-2010 @ 7:06 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 613 Joined: Oct 2009 Well now! It would appear that "Alan" has a problem with topics that appeal to a number of people as demonstrated by the amount of viewers. Several people have made contributions to this topic, and other topics with similar content, about VIN's & Body ID plates. Some of these posting have stated that "the posters car did not have a body ID plate" while others have maintained that "their cars have Body ID plates". Information has been printed in several publications stating that "EFV8 BODIES THAT WERE SUPPLIED BY COMPANY'S OTHER THAN FORD HAVE (HAD) BODY ID PLATES" These body plates contain the model/style and body number, not the VIN. Think about it, to maintain that some bodies had ID plates, and some did not, makes no sense. How was a vendor, shipper, and receiving assembly plant supposed to keep tract of the body until it was placed on a chassis and received the VIN? We all know that Ford and it's outside suppliers made running changes to the bodies, chassis, etc. Since the VIN means nothing as far as Ford is concerned, how was the supply of parts and/or repair to vehicles accomplished without a tracking number? I hate to refer back to Chrysler again, but I must, because the Chrysler info about their convertible bodies is so complete, being well detailed in the Mechanical Repair Manuals and/or Parts Books. Through the years '37-41, that being the years that Briggs and Murray made convertible bodies for ChryCo cars, reference is made about changes to the bodies and/or attachments there-on based on the body number. Mechanical changes are covered by either the engine number and/or VIN, both of which differ from the body number. I guess the discussion about Body Plates, did they, or did they not...is like talking about what came first, the chicken or the egg? Bill 36 5 win delx cpe arguelles67 01-30-2010 @ 4:33 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 Alan, FACT: For those who of us who don't posses a profound intuition of exact Ford model body identification, there is physically no difference in the "BODY" besides the ID BODY TAG on a doorless and windowless "37" 710 Roadster and a doorless and windowless "37" two seater Cabriolet. When splitting hairs or "FLOGGING TO DEATH" lets be very clear, that way people dont have to ask twice and can refer to past posts. Dan Alan 01-29-2010 @ 8:25 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 16 Joined: Oct 2009 Dan, I know it a 37 Roadster, I don't need the tag to tell me. Its just not as important as your trying to make out it is. Get over it its been flogged to death. Alan. arguelles67 01-29-2010 @ 7:12 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 Alan, 37RAGTOPMAN started this post by saying the doors on my 710 "look authentic". You had said on a previous post there were only 1067 "37" Roadsters made between 85 and 65's and around 8000 units of 760-A two seater cabriolets. If you dont have the doors, window detail,no ID TAG on the car, how can you tell the difference between a 710 Roadster and a 760-A Cabriolet? There does exist an important significance for the BODY ID TAG in such a limited production vehicle in "37" if its one of the only real character defining aspects that seperate it from a higher production 760-A cabriolet model. Dan Alan 01-29-2010 @ 6:44 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 16 Joined: Oct 2009 I don't need an ID tag to tell what body it is, its not that important. Its time to get over this 37 ID plate you have flogged it to death. Alan. arguelles67 01-29-2010 @ 4:02 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 37RAGTOPMAN, Some Rodders will keep the classic lines of the car but will update the interior with contemporary appointments, I believe they are called "Retro-Rods". Some frugal minded individuals limit the feasibility of a restoration by the lint in their pocket. When this type of situation occurs the project car can be at least salvaged for use as one of these retro-rods where at least the their will be an appretiation for keeping the car from being crushed! There is a greater value when Rodders use real sreel cars and not fiberglass replicas. wmsteed, I find value in the body tag as well and as a historical preservationist myself I cant really understand why EFV8 doesnt give extra points if a car has the original intact. I do understand though that because of the way Ford ran their operation and that not all their open body cars had ID TAGS , that may be the reason not much emphasis is placed on these tags because they werent exactly standard procedure on every car. As you know I place a great emphasis on the ID TAG as in the case of my 710 because it may be the only way I can prove my car is a 710 Roadster without correct window detail in the doors. wmsteed 01-29-2010 @ 9:37 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 613 Joined: Oct 2009 I have found that a vast majority of the street rodders and customizers are basicly on an ego trip. They build a car to SHOW... knowing full well that in about two years they will tire of the car because it is not receiving the awards that it did when it first hit the show circuit. Maybe I place to much credence on the value of proper VIN's and ID plates, however, missing and/or improperly located ID plates can be a hint that all is not as it should be. Restorers generally fall into a different category. Their finished product is generally equal to, or better than new. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe 37RAGTOPMAN 01-29-2010 @ 6:14 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1969 Joined: Oct 2009 its just a steet rod, the guy that buys it will never know, for me to pay that much I would have to see it with no paint, paint can hid many things, that can surface in a few years, if funny how many people want a street rod and after its done decide to sell it, I guess its just s business,for some just my 2 cents worth, 37RAGTOPMAN arguelles67 01-27-2010 @ 7:56 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 37RAGTOPMAN, Yeah I figured that car wasnt right.... Just wanted to show you the tag because that is real. I have noticed the same tag on Ford 36 and 37's. Thanks for the list! 37RAGTOPMAN 01-27-2010 @ 6:34 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1969 Joined: Oct 2009 hi arguelles67 I saw the TAG and it is for either a 1936 convertible sedan, or a 1936 convertible touring sedan,with the 740 prefix, so that 1936 CABRIOLET the one on the web site that you posted for viewing for us,, is MADE OUT OF PARTS for sure.... this info come form this web site,UNDER CAR CODES, check it out, that car should have a 760 prefix,to BE CORRECT, and it is NOT I copied the car codes , it it down below, Car Codes Year Manufacturer Model Car Code 1936 Ford 3-windowcoupe 68-72A 1936 Ford cabriolet 68-76A 1936 Ford club cabriolet 68-76B 1936 Ford convertible sedan 68-74B 1936 Ford convertible touring sedan 68-74C 1936 Ford deluxe 5-windowcoupe 68-77B 1936 Ford deluxe fordor sedan 68-73B 1936 Ford deluxe fordor touring sedan 68-73D 1936 Ford deluxe panel delivery 68-80D 1936 Ford deluxe pickup 68-80A 1936 Ford deluxe sedan delivery 68-78B 1936 Ford deluxe tudor sedan 68-70B 1936 Ford deluxe tudor touring sedan 68-70D 1936 Ford phaeton 68-75A 1936 Ford roadster 68-71A

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