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Posted By Discussion Topic: 1937 Ford 710 Roadster identification -- page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11     ford38v8 01-14-2010 @ 7:50 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2763 Joined: Oct 2009 I'm glad you're glad! I was afraid you'd be mad at all the things I was able to see from your pictures. To answer your question, I'll say that it would probably take more to restore what you have today to original than it would to find an original in Show condition. In today's world, the cost of restoration is prohibitive if you are looking to get your money out of it in resale within say, 15 years or so. On the other hand, you could have a lot of fun tweaking it to your own style without the worry of destroying originality. If money is no object, and that's the case with many restorers, you have some homework to do to discover what is actually correct. An excellent start on that would be the purchase of the '37 Book from this website. It has been well researched over quite a few years, and is fresh off the presses. Yes, a '37 cabriolet is a scarce bird, but I wouldn't say rare. Your car however, is a one of a kind, and that's as rare as they get! So have fun with it, and be assured that it would certainly be welcome at an EFV8CA Concourse in our Display Class. Alan arguelles67 01-14-2010 @ 8:39 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 Thanks Alan for your kind remarks.... I'm a novice and lack the foundation to bring this car back to classic. Were you joking about the car being a one of a kind? I do welcome your comments and I have no reason to be upset because I purchased the car without putting a dime to restore it. My intention was to re-sell it to someone that has the time and the money to restore back to classic or rod it. First base was to authenticate that it is indeed a 1937 710 Roadster. There were few made and even fewer surviving examples today.(Is there any way to know how many actually still exist in the U.S.?) Second base would be to determine a value so that it may be offered and sold at a price that would be inviting to someone who wants to get a project car like this in their garage. I havent really shown it to anyone because I havent had the time. I'm considering putting it in the Kruse Auction next weekend. I live in Miami so the auction will not be far away. What would be a good reserve estimate that you could recommend for this car from what you have seen? Thanks ahead for any advice you can give! ford38v8 01-14-2010 @ 10:26 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2763 Joined: Oct 2009 Actually, I wasn't really joking about it being a one of a kind. Being that it has all those modifications, you'll never find another quite like it. Many Custom cars and Hot Rods are so identical in many ways, but I've never seen modern windows with vent wings on any Ford of the '30's. I don't want to lead you on and tell you it's worth a lot of money, though, and an auction is a crap shoot, so, who knows? you might make a few bucks on it. It's worth is in the eyes of the beholder, so I hope you get a lot of beholders and a couple of them to bid against each other. As for a reserve, you should try to break even on your investment. Be aware that auctions are not for novices, either buyers or sellers. I found that out the hard way myself some years back. Alan arguelles67 01-15-2010 @ 5:19 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 Im under the impression that regardless of the modifications..... shouldnt the fact that its at least a bonified 1937 710 Roadster in pretty good body condition carry any weight? After all there are many individuals that call their 37 Ford a Roadster and what they in fact have is a fiberglass copy, a cabriolet, or a chopped/modified coupe. A fiberglass body costs around $18000.00 to obtain. This body style is a one year only model and probably one of the most fiberglass replicated models in the industry. So again my question is, what would be a fair price to ask for this car since it actually is a 1937 710 Roadster in the condition it is in right now. How much weight does having and actual 710 really carry since there are so many copycats that worship this body style at least in the hot rod industry? For example: some of these guys will sink in 100k on a fiberglass copy to make a one of a kind hot rod. And there is no limit on fiberglass bodies. On the other hand, if the same guy put his money in a car like mine, the same investment should be safer because he has a one of a kind that real and not a replica! What sayeth you? And do you feel qualified to shoot from the hip and give an answer? Again, I invite opinions of anyone else reading this, please dont worry about hurting my feelings. Stroker 01-15-2010 @ 7:12 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1460 Joined: Oct 2009 OK, I'll take the bait! I believe what you have is a $5000 Street Rod, nothing more or less. Just out of curiosity though, since you have graciously shown us the modified rear suspension, and automatic transmission selector, can we have a peek under the hood? Is it possible that this car was originally built by Ford of Argentina? It has clearly been "massaged" throughout its undoubtedly colorful life; if it could only "talk" I'm sure it would have an interesting tale to tell. Who knows, perhaps it once belonged to "El Maestro" Juan Manuel Fangio, who raced these early in his career. trjford8 01-15-2010 @ 7:14 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 4218 Joined: Oct 2009 Due to the vast number of modifications on your car the value of a 37 roadster has been substantially diminished. Not sure what you paid for the car, but buying a car like this is a gamble on your part and the part of a potential buyer. As was stated, auctions are a gamble. You may or may not find a buyer. You also need to know that most auctions charge the seller and the buyer. Some auctions are "no reserve", so once the bidding starts you are required to sell the car even if it is at a loss. wmsteed 01-15-2010 @ 9:07 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 613 Joined: Oct 2009 Someone has really worked overtime with the 37 to try and make it into something it is not. The recent pics reveal my first observation about the absence of Ford axle hubs was correct. The chassis has been modified to a street rod with auto trans, open drive line etc. If there is a thought to return the car to stock, I would advise against it. The cost to return the doors and side windows to stock framed windows would probably cost in excess of $3,000., and from there it would be mega bucks down the drain. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe wmsteed 01-15-2010 @ 9:09 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 613 Joined: Oct 2009 Someone has really worked overtime with the 37 to try and make it into something it is not. The recent pics reveal my first observation about the absence of Ford axle hubs was correct. The chassis has been modified to a street rod with auto trans, open drive line etc. If there is a thought to return the car to stock, I would advise against it. The cost to return the doors and side windows to stock framed windows would probably cost in excess of $3,000., and from there it would be mega bucks down the drain. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe arguelles67 01-15-2010 @ 10:38 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 Stroker, The car has a body serial number in sync with U.S. produced models. It also shows on the Colombian documents the origin is the U.S. and the ID plate number stamping is consistent with Ford Motor practices in the U.S. Attached is a picture under the hood... arguelles67 01-15-2010 @ 10:44 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 trjford, Again I feel everyones missing the point....there are hardly any examples of 710 Roadsters in ANY condition so even a poor condition 710 should command a higher dollar than a cabriolet and it should definitly command a higher dollar than a fiberglass body. The auction is close to where I live and I would definitly put a reserve amount on it.....Thats why Im asking around to find out what that might be.... $5000.00 is out of the question.

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