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Posted By Discussion Topic: 1937 Ford 710 Roadster identification -- page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11     arguelles67 01-23-2010 @ 6:48 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 wmsteed, and others: The Website Administration has asked that we open a new Topic if we need to continue this conversation. All the acumulated data is very important and some of the earlier data has been deleted possibly as a result to accomodate this very long thread. So as not to inconvenience this Forum please follow up at the new post: 1937 Ford 710 I.D. Part 2 Thanks, Dan wmsteed 01-23-2010 @ 10:21 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 613 Joined: Oct 2009 Dan, To expand on your question about the location of the VIN. The primary location of an original Ford VIN is on the frame adjacent to the steering gears. There are secondary locations on the frame under the left door sill and on the left rear of the frame on the hump over the rear axle. The body has to be lifted from the chassis to view both of the secondary locations. The correct VIN starts with a five point STAR 18-3331857, ending with 18-418446. If the STAR is missing and the VIN is not stamped into the frame somewhere close to the steering gears, the VIN has been altered. Ford never used a plate attached to the frame for the VIN. Law enforcement people generally don't care about the correctness of VIN's on old cars so long as they look correct and fall into the proper number range, if the person verifying the numbers has the knowledge and resources to check the numbers for correctness. I have found it to be very interesting that 1945 people have looked at this topic with 122 adding comments. We both know that many of the comments have been very derogatory, and I have to admit that some of mine about the correctness of the "reputed body number" and body alternations could be construed as being "less than friendly". I prefer to keep my comments as factual as possible avoiding the use of ethnic phrases...e.g. Havana Taxi. As I stated earlier, I am somewhat of an enigma, I live eat and breath old cars, yet I, like a lot of other people find, the purest attitudes to be bordering on almost down right rude. I have encountered this lofty attitude many times, regardless of the marque of the vehicle. When I found my '39 Plymouth conv. cpe in 1996 I promptly joined the Plymouth Owners Club (POC). They were so glad to have me because of the car. When I started a topic on their online forum about finding the car and my progress to rebuild it everything was great.... Then I started making postings about some of the upgrades I was making to the car.... I was bombarded with rude comments... The first club meeting I took the car to started out very badly, however, a couple of guys finally came over to look at my car, within a few minutes the car was mobbed. I am now accepted by the Plymouth people as being one of the few experts on the '37-39 Plym conv.. The POC Topic, 39 Plymouth conv. cpe, is the most active topic on the POC site with almost 14,000 viewers and many contributors from several countries. For your info, and anyone else that may be interested, I have attached a pic of an original, unmolested Briggs body tag that Briggs attached to the convertible bodies they made. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe efv8 01-23-2010 @ 9:26 AM reply profile send p.m. Administrator Posts: 216 Joined: Sep 2009 OK guys. Let's SUSPEND this discussion as it has gone very long . . . if you need to contine this, please start a NEW TOPIC. Thank you. Website Administration This message was edited by efv8 on 1-23-10 @ 9:31 AM arguelles67 01-22-2010 @ 7:13 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 Alan, Im sorry, It was for the other Alan with the tag "ford38v8". But thanks for the response just the same. Dan Alan 01-22-2010 @ 5:51 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 16 Joined: Oct 2009 You've got the wrong Alan, the last post by me was my first on this thread. one of your frame numbers should be on the top chassis rail near the steering box and I assure you my opinion is not slanted its the truth. Alan. arguelles67 01-22-2010 @ 4:34 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 TomO, I have to thank you ahead for saving me $300.00 I would have spent at the Miami Kruse Auto Auction today! I took heed of your warning but I went there anyway and there was a guy there demaning his $25000.00 from the last show and he was making a big scene...... They tried to offer him $5000.00 just to go away! all: TomO'S ADVICE WAS ON THE MONEY arguelles67 01-22-2010 @ 4:28 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 Alan, Contrary to what you think ,I do value your opinion. But your opinion is strongly slanted one way. I also like the opinion of others as well so I can see the full spectrum of tastes that Im unaware of. I never tried to convince you that my car is something that its not. I have not given my car more credit that it has recieved from this post by yourself and others included. If someone buys my car I will have had them read this thread and decide for themselves. Im not out to take advantage of a novice because Im one as well. Would you be so kind and tell me where the serial number is located on the frame. Im curious as I have not seen it myself because it was viewed by law enforcement and I didnt want to get dirty the day they verified it to qualify for my title. Alan 01-22-2010 @ 12:54 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 16 Joined: Oct 2009 I like 1600 readers have been watching this thread asking people about your car. When you don't get the answer that you want you just keep going on & on about how rare it is. I only hope the person who buys it for $29k is not a novice thinking he is getting a good car & can fix it up easily. From looking at the photos I think it has been prettied up & full of plastic & definality no worth anything near the money you are asking for it. Don't ask me what I think its worth because I would not touch it with a 40 foor pole. Alan. arguelles67 01-22-2010 @ 4:35 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 86 Joined: Jan 2010 Alan, Seriously, what other way could I have responded to such non-productive and derisive commentary? First off, I refuse to sit idle while my credibility is attacked. I'm not your revered car dealer and I simply offered a friendly reminder to Bob that may give me some benefit. I did not begin this thread to sell a friggin car and to suggest that is ridiculous. Yes I did list my car a couple of days ago only after someone else did and later checked into this Forum. I dont think Im out of place to do this and It was suggested by this thread that it would be probably better to offer this car direct to the benefit of an individual instead of an auction. Alan I have been getting calls from the Classified section of this Forum and I refer them to the scrutiny of the expertise given on this thread so that I may me objective. Although I feel at times you are not always so objective. Thats just my humble opinion. It is very obvious to me that this subject thread is of great interest to many people given the 1600 hits we have in only a matter of 8 days! The items and the knowledge brought together here on this very important subject will benefit future searches of individuals looking for information we have touched upon here these past days. I guess in a certain sense we have a compilation of very hard to come by information and we have beat to death the subject of a deserving, very elusive and little known popular Ford. If indeed you have moved on from slapping parts together and using unskilled labor when you were young, then please do the same with your derrogative name calling of my car. I have treated you with respect and I ask the same from you. This is not the image you should project to new members. There are invividuals who believe here that this car deserves the chance to be brought back to original just because its a limited production model, has a large following and there are so few examples left. You dont have to be almost born in a car to given an incentive to show love for it! Love, Dan ford38v8 01-21-2010 @ 9:08 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2763 Joined: Oct 2009 Dan, now you're not only off subject, you're looking for free publicity for your business as well as your taxi. I'm sure your car will be the new benchmark for years to come as a result of this thread, but we're not willing to do the same for your business. Alan

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