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Dolman |
12-21-2010 @ 9:10 PM
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I am new to this forum and hope to be the new owner of a 1934 Ford pickup. Exercising due diligence, I asked the seller for a copy of the title prior to remitting any funds and having the truck shipped to Alaska. The truck is registered in New York where titles weren't issued until 1972. The seller emailed a copy of the New York registration which shows the truck to be a 1933. The seller asserts that it is in fact a 1934. There are several numbers on the registration: 13806507 3000 G M971717 The research that I have done so far suggests that the 3 in the first number should be an 8 which would indicate a 1934 if that number is the VIN. The Alaska DMV ran the number appearing on the registration in the national data base and came back with nothing. I was then advised that in order to obtain an Alaska title, the vehicle would have to be inspected to verify the VIN. I guess my question to the membership, is the first number I listed the VIN and is my interpretation of the model year correct? Thanks for the help.
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42wagon |
12-22-2010 @ 3:22 AM
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Dolman Assuming the 3 is really an 8 you are correct that the first set of numbers is a serial number for a 1934 V8. That number should appear on the left frame rail between the radiator and the firewall and should look like this: *18-806507* The other numbers listed are a mystery and should not be part of the car identification number, serial number, vin number, or whatever. If another serial number appears on the left frame rail you will have a problem as how do you prove that the piece of paper you were given really is for the vehicle in front of you?
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Dolman |
12-22-2010 @ 6:18 AM
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Thanks, 42Wagon. The seller says that number appears on the transmission and I asked him to email a picture of it. Now I need to have him find the number on the frame rail as you pointed out. I am not enamored of the thought of disassembly of the floor and transmission cover plate at 10 or 20 below for a DMV inspection. And the thought just occurred to me that the transmission could be from another vehicle and the number on the frame would be the governing number. Right?
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BrianCT |
12-22-2010 @ 7:16 AM
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Where in NY? I would hope someone here could look at it for you. Unless it is very cheap a second opinion on condition would be good.
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Dolman |
12-22-2010 @ 8:36 AM
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The truck is in Florida and is not a cheapie. Completely original and in excellent condition. Might be paying too much for it but I have never seen a hearse pulling a U-Haul. The seller is having his mechanic do a chalk rubbing on the frame rail and will email the photo to me. I would like to fly to Florida to do the verification myself (-11 this morning so the thought is very appealing) but I have a back problem that requires morphine for me to tolerate an airline seat. I appreciate your counsel.
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1932BB |
12-22-2010 @ 10:29 AM
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Post some pictures! There are small differences in the hood and body between a 33 and a 34 truck and possibly more. It may at least tell you if you are in the ball park so to speak!
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Dolman |
12-22-2010 @ 12:37 PM
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Here's 1 photo. The system doesn't appear to facilitate posting multiple photos. Guess I'll have to open Photoshop and put together a montage. My eyes glaze over every time I try to use it.
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CharlieStephens |
12-22-2010 @ 12:40 PM
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Ask your state DMV. I bet they won't accept the number on the transmission and will insist on seeing the one on the frame. The best investment you could make would be to fly to Florida and view the car yourself (not just for the number but for everything). If you can't fly send someone or ask for contacts in a local EFV8 club. Pictures can lie, that is part of being a good photographer. I remember my wife telling me how nice and clean down town Los Angeles looked in the movies and then she saw skid row in person. Charlie Stephens
This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 12-22-10 @ 12:42 PM
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Dolman |
12-22-2010 @ 12:50 PM
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The number on the frame rail was found and it agrees with the number on the transmission and on the registration New York registration. I only have 284,000 airline miles to burn through but don't like taking pain medications to keep my back quiet while I fly. I have friends that live in Florida who will return home the first week of January and they will do an on-site verification for me. He is a retired engineer which could be bad, but then so am I. While I have your attention, how do I post more than 1 photo at a time?
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Dolman |
12-22-2010 @ 12:58 PM
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Another Photo.
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