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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Brake Spring

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dansford
12-18-2010 @ 1:10 PM
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My brake return spring broke on my 36 and am trying to install a new one is it possible to do this from under the car? removeing the old one is a pain, does any one have some good hints they can pass along? Thanks.



supereal
12-18-2010 @ 1:22 PM
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Which spring are you referring to. The pedal return?

dansford
12-18-2010 @ 3:14 PM
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Sorry I did not make my self clear, it's the spring that connects fron the frame to the brake shaft.Thanks

JM
12-19-2010 @ 7:23 AM
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I think this was pretty well explained by someone who replied to you on your Fordbarn post..........

"The spring you're referring to I believe is the one that mounts in the X member of the frame, and extends forward to the pedal assy. The easy way I found to reconnect it was to hook the rear hook onto the correct frame hole and loop a piece of bailing wire to the front spring hook. The loop of bailing wire can be hooked as I did to a small come-along to the front bumper. Jack the come-along until it is stretched far enough and you can hook it onto the pedal assy. Then just snip the wire and remove. Hope that's clear enough. Milt K from Pa"

JM

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dansford
12-19-2010 @ 8:56 AM
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Hi JM I read that on the Fordbarn but I'm trying to get more options.Thanks

supereal
12-19-2010 @ 9:03 AM
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Those springs have two issues: they are strong, and hard to get at from under the car. Sometimes pulling the parking brake lever back as far as it will go will release some of the tension. The suggestion above for using a "come along" to stretch the spring is a new one for me, but makes sense.

Wltr_Mitty
12-20-2010 @ 7:01 AM
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As mentioned above, try setting the hand brake. Pulling the clevis pins at the wheels will make the job even easier. An installation hook tool fashioned from a coat hanger works best for me.

A stiff or strong spring is one thing, but the repop spring sold by Macs is downright incorrect. I've tried installing two of them now, and both times they were so tight that braking safety was severely compromised. Besides, once you get them in, they're completely stretched out of shape. If you can't find the correct spring, my advise would be to pick up a long, generic pedal return spring from the "Help" isle at your favorite parts store and bend it to suit. You'll be much happier with the results.

This message was edited by Wltr_Mitty on 12-20-10 @ 7:02 AM

supereal
12-20-2010 @ 9:59 AM
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The brake return springs from C&G hold their shape and tension. See them on page 47 of their on-line catalog (www.cgfordparts.com), part# 48-2472. Many of the springs sold today are apparently foreign made, and no better than just coiled wire. I suspect that the producers never heard of tempering, or knew how to do it. Inferior and counterfeit parts are a plague in this country, and threaten the safety of cars, trucks, and even planes.

Stroker
12-20-2010 @ 12:08 PM
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Super:

I agree that "bogus" parts are a threat to our hobby, and motoring in general; but probably not in FAA certified planes (anything that doesn't have a big EXPERIMENTAL sticker by the cockpit). Aviation replacement parts each carry a unique engraved number that traces the component back to the manufacturer, which is supported with a paper trail not unlike the chain of custody in criminal evidence. A magneto condenser on a Cessna may be virtually the same as the one in a 57 Chevy, but because of the "paperwork" will cost 10 times as much. The mechanic that decides to substitute it and, and the inspector that signs off on it risk facing Federal prison time.

Maybe we need something in our hobby like the "Good Housekeeping Seal". The Club would test the product and put a little Blue Ribbon with a V8 sticker on it.


dansford
12-20-2010 @ 2:12 PM
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Thanks for the help all, I bought my return spring from Roy Nacewicz another reliable dealer.Thanks dansford

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