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Dream38v8

06-21-2024 @ 5:25 AM

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Alan, I replaced the resistor and the car still wouldn't start. Next I jumped the battery directly to the coil. The car started rough, but smoothed out in a few. After the car started I removed the jumper wire. The car continued to run. The car ran for over five minutes. Next I removed the coil for a fellow V8 member to test. The coil is good. So now I am probably down to the ignition switch. I plan to jump the ignition switch. If the car starts I located the problem. What should I know about removing the switch and cleaning it?

Thanks to everyone on the Forum for guidance and assistance.

Ray

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06-21-2024 @ 10:24 PM

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Ray, Have you actually tested voltage at each juncture? I wouldn't dismantle or replace anything on guesswork before testing shows a fault. Your battery voltage across the terminals will be your starting point, and you should expect a very small voltage drop down the line, almost not measurable. The first point to measure is at your solenoid, then at the ignition switch. If your ignition switch drops voltage say, ½ volt, clean it or replace it. Your inline resistor is needed to protect the coil, and will drop about 2 volts. You need over 3 volts at the coil to start easily and run smoothly. I'd try Third Gen for a replacement ignition switch if yours tests bad. A very easy temporary fix, even easier than your jumper wire, is to release the starter and hope the engine kicks for you. This may do it, but may also require several tries to kick, and of course requires a good fuel charge and maybe half a choke if cold. The point here is to remove the starter's electrical draw from the equation to allow that voltage use for the ignition only.
There are more fixes to the problem, but one thing at a time here, if this doesn't work for you, come on back and learn how your jumper wire can help you or if used continuously can hurt you.

Alan

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06-30-2024 @ 6:57 AM

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I haven't touched the car since my last update. Got back at it yesterday. Here's the latest:
The voltage drop across the battery is 6.2V (without the charger connected). I keep the battery on a trickle charger when I will not be using the car for a week or more. After installing the tested coil and condenser the car would not start. I jumped the solenoid to the coil. The car started. I went for a 15 mile test drive. AOK. When I turned the ignition off the car continued to run. Not a good work around or solution. The jumper has been removed. I let the car sit about an hour. It started without the solenoid jumper. Next the car sat overnight and went back this morning. The car started, but took a few cranks to actually fire and run (no jumper). I was using the choke as always. Ever since I owned the car it never started on first crank. It’s always taken a few cranks and playing with the choke to get it going. I let the car sit for about an hour. Went back out and it started right away (battery charger was not connected). Voltage at the coil is 3.2V.

It seems the car is back to where is was prior to the starting issue. Here’s what I’ve done since the issue started:
1) Installed new ignition resistor
2) Installed to H10 plugs
3) Installed different distributor with new points
4) Had coil and condenser tested (OK)
5) Cleaned every connection I’ve worked with
6) Tighten a loose connection on the solenoid
The car is also running a little rich. I will readjust the it later today.

Thank you to everyone on the forum. You all continue to amaze me with the deep knowledge of our beloved Ford V8.

Ray

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06-30-2024 @ 8:13 AM

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Hi Ray,
Glad to hear that you have gotten your '38 to start and run reliably. Summer is now here so it is time to take your Flathead out and enjoy driving it. Be sure to bring EFV8 Club membership information with you. It is in driving our old Fords that we can generate enthusiasm within our communities for these often times forgotten beauties.

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