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Dream38v8

05-22-2024 @ 5:22 AM

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Back in 2016 when my wife bought me my dream car it would kill when it got hot. This Forum recommended I get a new/rebuilt coil from Skip Haney. I did and that solved the problem. Today the car will not start. It will only crank without firing. I removed a spark plug wire and could not observe any spark jumping to the plug or cylinder head. I keep the battery charged. The battery is less than 2 years old. I miss driving my '38. Any help diagnosing my problem would be appreciated.

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05-22-2024 @ 6:57 AM

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sounds like you may need a new condenser imo.i'm sure others will chime in. Tom. possibly new coil.

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05-22-2024 @ 10:39 AM

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The no start condition could be the result of something simple like an open circuit in the ignition primary wiring circuit. If the car has been stored in an area of high humidity, some of the connections in the primary circuit may have corroded causing poor conductivity. Check all of these connections for corrosion, clean them as required and reconnect them so they are tight.

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05-22-2024 @ 10:55 AM

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Thanks same and Carcrazy. I last ran the car in March and everything was ok. I replaced the condenser with one I had in the trunk. I am not sure of its status. I tried to start the car again. It cranked and fired for about 5 seconds. As I tried to give the car more gas it died. Now I seem to back where I started. Maybe this found condenser is also bad. I've driven the car approximately 5000 miles since I replaced the coil and condenser with Skip's. The condenser that was in the car was from NAPA (FA49?). I thinking of running to NAPA for another condenser.

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05-22-2024 @ 3:47 PM

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HI
to test the primary circuit,
with the key on do you get test light to light when you put on the coil terminal ?
or using a meter it should read 3 1/2 volts, Look for loose terminals or corrosion
also check out your resistor should have elect on both terminals , in and out
if not
I would try a jumper lead from the battery to the coil terminal, and see if it starts,
DO not run this for a few seconds only, maybe a 1-2 minute or so if it starts
this will heat up the coil
you also may have to clean the points, maybe are corroded, or have oil on them,???
lets hear how you made out,
hope this helps 37Ragtopman,Maine

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05-23-2024 @ 4:54 AM

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Don't use old condensers since they can go bad with time. Yes call NAPA or order order a magnito condenser.

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05-23-2024 @ 3:16 PM

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It was the condenser! My spare was bad. I bought a new one from NAPA (FA29) and the car started immediately. Now I need to buy another condenser.

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Ray

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05-24-2024 @ 3:42 PM

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37RAGTOPMAN, I plan to try your jumper idea tomorrow. If it starts what does this prove? I will also get my test light out for the coil terminal. You also mentioned a resistor. Is this the one under the dash?

Yesterday I installed the new NAPA (FA49) condenser and the car started immediately. Next I went for a 15 minute drive ('38 ran great). Today I started the car again to go for a drive. It started right away and ran for 15-20 seconds and quit. Now the car wont start. My guess either the condenser is bad or something else caused the condenser to fail. Any ideas?

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05-24-2024 @ 8:05 PM

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How old are your spark plugs? I once had a set of Champion H-10s with about 9,600 miles on them totally fail and produce no spark. The car wouldn't even try to start when using ether starting fluid. It had no spark. I replaced the old plugs with a brand new set and the engine promptly started and drove for hundreds of miles with no problems.

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05-25-2024 @ 6:42 AM

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Your new condenser could have gone bad. They are fragile inside, and I have read reports of many new condensers being bad right out of the box. However, I have also read that the NAPA condensers have a reputation for being reliable; but that doesn't mean you didn't get a bad one. When I have bought a condenser in the past, I bought two of them on the chance one of them may not be good.

Seems like a new condenser solved your problem the first time. I would try another new condenser.

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