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leon bee

01-02-2022 @ 9:20 PM

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I can tell you're real bright, Steve, because that is precisely what I was pointing out.

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01-02-2022 @ 3:40 PM

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DUh ; it has to be on the compression stroke and timed to the camshaft. Factory #1 wire on the distributor is at 6 0'clock on the distributor cap. Tom sent that info in a previous thread, and he's DEAD ON!!

The only way #1 can be in a different location on the cap is if to pull the distributor out and put it in in a different position (rotor pointing wherever with compression on # 1 cylinder. Then number 0ne can be where the rotor points to in the new position. But the other wires must then be installed in the same old firing order, and the same old rotation.

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01-02-2022 @ 1:36 PM

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About 3 times in a row on different engines, despite my best effort, I've had the distributor stuck in there just one tooth off. Engine will almost start or even start and barely run.

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01-02-2022 @ 9:01 AM

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Are you sure that you had cylinder 1 on the compression stroke when you aligned the distributor rotor with the no. 1 spark plug? When you have the plugs out to clean or replace them, double check that cylinder 1 is on the compression stroke when the dot is aligned with the pointer and the rotor is pointing to the no. 1 spark plug wire.

If you are still having a problem getting it started, rotate the distributor slightly towards the retard direction. If it still doesn't start, rotate the distributor slightly towards the advance direction.

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01-01-2022 @ 9:41 PM

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Your spark plugs may all be fouled at this point. Once the plugs are totally fouled the engine will not try to start even with starting fluid. I would replace all of the spark plugs with brand new ones set to the proper gap.

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Ok, here is where I'm at now. I am using the mark on pulley and pointer. I set the dist. on the number one cylinder. I checked to make sure I was getting a spark on #1 by barely moving the dist.to and fro and watching the spark on the wire to the head/top of plug. I then locked the dist. down and now upon trying to start it, it seems to want to but nothing more than a lot of starting stumbles. Now what? I'm set up right I think but what can I do to without overstating the obvious..get it running. Im not getting back fire so I assume I'm on the compression stroke. Keep in mind I somehow got lucky and had the motor running and starting on a quick lick about a year ago. So it will run. I'm using starter spray to get it to hit a lick..when it finally will/does. Could I possibly need to clean the plug/s from all this scr*w*ng around? The #1 plug seemed very sooty, so maybe not getting a good enough fire from all the trial and error and loading fuel and not properly burning it off and the others too to get it going?

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12-29-2021 @ 6:18 PM

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True top dead center has no relation to timing; initial timing is at 2 degrees advance; NOT TOP DEAD CENTER!!

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12-29-2021 @ 6:13 PM

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Don't get so technical; when the dot on the lower pulley and pointer on the timing cover align -it's at 2@ degrees before TOP DEAD CENTER!!, and that's where FORD Motor Company says it is to be timed! Naturally, as the motor is sped up, the timing must advance more, and the vacuum advance on the side of the distributor does that; if it doesn't, you either have a leak in the line to the carburetor or the diaphragm in the unit is bad. It could be more than that; but one, or both of them, those are usually the culprits.

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12-29-2021 @ 6:01 PM

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YES!!

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Yes all '49 and up to '53 v8's are 8ba's to my knowledge.

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