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Posted By Discussion Topic: Timing Gear Replacement -- page: 1 2 3     carcrazy 07-29-2022 @ 8:05 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1652 Joined: Oct 2009 Excellent! gmcbuffalo 07-29-2022 @ 7:00 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 72 Joined: Jul 2011 What is possible if the radiator is out is to drill three holes in the fiber and use a pulley puller. Came right off. Greg Meiling 1935 3 Window Coupe gmcbuffalo 07-27-2022 @ 4:58 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 72 Joined: Jul 2011 Well Willim’s method will not work on a full size V8. The fiber gear’s metal ring extend deep into the fiber. It will not expand to come off. I drill two holes thinking it would expand. Started chipping the fiber out and found that the metal ring is well incorporated into the fiber. I will try dropping the pan and to take off the crank gear, remove heads to lift lifters. Reinstalling the motor with no help is a real chore, but it may be in my future. Greg Meiling 1935 3 Window Coupe gmcbuffalo 07-26-2022 @ 7:20 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 72 Joined: Jul 2011 to remove the crankshaft gear as describe in the Williams article requires removal of the Key. How is this done? Greg Meiling 1935 3 Window Coupe shoebox 10-31-2021 @ 12:37 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 56 Joined: Mar 2014 Also, if not already mentioned, I'd want to drop the pan to inspect for any timing gear teeth fragments. 37RAGTOPMAN 10-10-2021 @ 11:26 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1958 Joined: Oct 2009 TIMING GEAR very good idea to change my 2 cents 37Ragtopman 39Fordfan 10-08-2021 @ 5:38 PM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 191 Joined: Oct 2009 37RAGTOPMAN Thank-you so much for all of your help! I will look into getting a new crankshaft gear when I order my timing gear and will probably do them together. 39Fordfan 10-08-2021 @ 1:02 PM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 191 Joined: Oct 2009 Dear carcrazy, Sorry I didn't see your post sooner. Your post is awesome. I am looking into it as we speak. Thank-you! If it works I'll send you some sort of gift. My questions with regards to this method are; 1) Are the camshaft bushings or bearings that are behind the timing gear strong enough to hold the camshaft in place while pulling the gear off the camshaft and tapping a new one on? Or do you have to support it somehow? (I have looked at schematics online and it seems like everything should hold together while the new gear gets tapped back on. Obvious question but just wanted to make sure.) 2) I wonder how well the newly tapped on gear will hold on the shaft in the long haul compared to a pressed on gear with the camshaft out of the engine? I wonder if there is any difference? Maybe Richard Willim answered these questions? I do not have his book. It sounds like he did it multiple times without issues. Maybe others on this forum have their opinions? Does anyone see a downside to trying this? Thanks! This message was edited by 39Fordfan on 10-8-21 @ 5:30 PM 37RAGTOPMAN 10-07-2021 @ 7:03 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1958 Joined: Oct 2009 I think I removed the valve springs and raised up the valves and removed the valve lifters, this was 25 years ago, so bear with me, hope this helps, 37Ragtopman IF you replace the gear in the car, like someone described, be sure to make sure you do not get any metal particles in the engine, carcrazy 10-06-2021 @ 11:49 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1652 Joined: Oct 2009 Here is how to change a fiber cam gear with the camshaft in the engine. This description is from Richard Willim's book, "The V8-60 Ford's Little Powerhouse". "Changing the gear does not require disassembly of the engine. I have changed gears in as little as an hour. The trick is getting the gear back on, not gettng it off the camshaft. To remove the gear, drill a 7/32" hole through the gears press fit steel ring. Gingerly drive a tapered punch into the hole. Be sure the punch is not too long. You do not want the punch hitting the block behind the camshaft gear. This procedure will spread the press fit ring enough to release its hold. The gear can then be slid off of the camshaft." "To reinstall the cam gear, chill the camshaft and heat the gear being cautious not to overheat it and burn the fiber. Line up the timing marks of the gear to the camshaft and also to the crankshaft timing marks. This should be mocked up before the gear is heated. The timing marks of the camshaft will be out of location with the crankshaft at this time. Because of the beveled gear, the camshaft will rotate as the new gear slides into position, This will put the camshaft and crankshaft timing marks in proper line up when the gear is home. With a hammer and block of wood, or some other type of driver, tap the camshaft gear into place. This must be done quickly before the gear cools too much and stops moving." "The other alternative is to remove both the camshaft and the crankshaft gears. This method requires the removal of the oil pan. Install the camshaft gear first and then install the crankshaft gear. This method allows the crankshaft key to assist in aligning the timing marks as the crankshaft gear is installed. In some cases this is better for alignment than a mark and a line on the camshaft and gear." I hope that the above explanation will help you to accomplish this task as easily and economically as possible. Please let us know if this works for you. Mr. Willim was of course working on a Ford V8-60 engine but the process should be similar. This message was edited by carcrazy on 10-6-21 @ 11:58 PM

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