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bonusbuilt1950 |
02-24-2012 @ 6:09 AM
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Try to find a shop ,manual for that truck. Lots of good info to help you. Also the 48-56 Parts and accessories catalog listed in above post is full of mistakes and omissions. It is a reprint from 1964 and alot of the part number were obsolete by then, so they omitted alot. What you want is a copy of the 48-54 or 48-55 Parts and accessories catalog. This is where the illustrations in the 48-56 catalog came from. I have all 3 catalogs and rarely use the 48-56 because of the mistakes. Your fan and gen setup looks just like my 50 F-1. I have a NAPA belt 215-20554 for the gen-waterpumps and a Gates 17A0926/ TH24365 for the fan. Napa has a listing for a fan belt, but it is a little too narrow and my fan hit the shroud. THe gates is perfect for me. Your problem appears that the fan hits the top? of the shroud with the adjustment all the way down? If so, maybe the radiator support bracket is sitting on the frame without the insulator pad between the frame and support perhaps? Something to check. THe radiator support uses part number B3T 8125-A which consists of 6 rubber pads and 3 steel shims. It is a kit that you shim it up to the height you need to clear, not necessarily using all the contents. That is where I'd look first.
Barry 50 F-1
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carwalls |
02-23-2012 @ 8:26 PM
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I've been doing quite a bit to this truck just to get it back on the road. Thanks so much for the belt#'s I'll cross-reference, after all this time I seem be moving forward. I'm not very familiar with these flatheads, worked for nearly 30 years in GM dealerships, quite a chevy guy, this is only my 3rd Ford, And I've spent alot of time finding info. I Haven't purchased a manual yet for this truck, I have found that part number/ illustration very helpful. I'll attach a few more links, Have fun! Thanks again Bill! I'll attempt to post pictures of the progress. http://flatheadv8.org/phpBB/index.php?sid=b0d35c37fbb7d95206b2540eba8595ac http://lbcunited.com/earlyford2/ http://www.earlyford.com/ http://www.clubfte.com/users/earl/Reference_Material/Reference_Material.html http://classicautoparts.com/ http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_home.htm http://www.dennis-carpenter.com/trucks.php http://www.btc-bci.com/~billben/flathead.htm http://midfifty.com/index.php http://www.classictrucks.com/index.html
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bkewin |
02-23-2012 @ 3:22 PM
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fan belt is 25-09330 long belt is 25-13880 also has 244ss and 62-0 both are napa also, that little motor has come a long way since you started. you should do a thread on what all you've done to it. did you use the ford manual? mine came in today. Head bolt torque in the book is higher than what i've been reading. I may be in the market for bolt on go fast goodies. I need to drive it for a year. Not too many oil spots on the drive, but the bottom end has a little sheen on it. I guess thats just the nature of these beasts. also Oil pressure seems high at 80#s at speed, but I read about an 80# melling pump that may have been installed. PO passed away so I can't ask him without a ouija board. No disrespect meant. I may be able to talk to the son of the owner before Murphy, at dallas early ford v8 club. Bill
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carwalls |
02-23-2012 @ 9:27 AM
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Bill, I am still attempting to get this fan shroud configuration settled, I'm having a difficult time letting it beat me. Would you please check the belt numbers that are on your truck now, and post the numbers for me. On the picture you posted I can almost see the small belt number. Should be something like 23555 for the small one and 24365 for the longer one. Thanks, Richard
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carwalls |
02-22-2012 @ 2:12 PM
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I saved them to my files after finding them online, they sure are informative! Richard
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bkewin |
02-22-2012 @ 1:22 PM
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Thanks for the excellent links. I'll start studying tonight.
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carwalls |
02-22-2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Bill, I just saw your pictures as I was posting the response to your previous info. The mount on the front appears the same as the one I have. The very first picture that I sent showed my engine after I first got it home on an engine stand and in that picture is a view of the front bracket loosely installed. I've sent another picture with parts scattered all over the floor that has a picture of a part of that bracket along the left side of the picture to the left of the crankshaft pulley. I really appreciate the assist Richard I'll attach a couple of links for factory parts illustration and text. 2 large pdf files. http://www.charpkustoms.com/BOTP/Diagrams/Ford_Truck-48-56-1.pdf http://www.charpkustoms.com/BOTP/Diagrams/Ford_Truck-48-56-2.pdf
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carwalls |
02-22-2012 @ 11:45 AM
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Measuring from the bottom of the cast block to the top of the rear flange of the crossmember I am at 7" exact. With 11" from the center of the crank pulley to the centerline of the fan shaft all the belts seem to be fitting but the fan is still too high in relation to the fan shroud opening. I've checked and really do believe that the radiator is the orginal and also the fan shroud, the raditor support shows no signs of having been removed. I'm afraid if I move the radiator up I would hit the bottom of the hood. I don't want to cut or modify the shroud so I'll remove it for now and continue. Thanks for your effort with this and every one else that has responded.
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bkewin |
02-21-2012 @ 1:46 PM
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from top of crossmember to bottom of cast block I have 7 inches exact. From the center of the crank pulley to the centerline of the fan shaft I have 11 inches. pictures I took don't amount to much. hard to hold this stupid phone etc. I think supereal pegged it, maybe your rad is mounted low. well I tried to find the front motor mount online and maybe i'm wrong here there is a sort of stirrup shaped thing that bolts to the cross member and then to the front of the block in 2 places. I guessed that was the motor mount. http://s1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa391/bkewin/?action=view¤t=075e1f47.jpg here is a link to a picture looking down on one side of the thing. I've yet to receive my shop manual and so am guessing here. I apologize for that.
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carwalls |
02-20-2012 @ 8:42 AM
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The pictures will be very helpful. Perhaps a measurment of the height of the front motor mount to the crossmember, mine looks correct but I'll try anything, and a measurement ot the outide diameter of the fan belt running from fan to crank pulley. Thanks for your help, Richard
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