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forJJ

03-30-2015 @ 6:53 PM

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So, I am new to early Fords, and I have a couple of questions. I just bought a 1936 2door sedan. The car has been sitting since at least the late 80's. It has an oil change sticker from 1955, showing less than 1000 miles since then. I am going to need to do some re-wiring, there are a lot of cracked and bare wires. Other than that, I am planning on keeping the car as-is. I don't want to restore it, just fix anything that needs it.
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Looking for a recommendation for changing the engine oil. I drained the crankcase, and not sure if I should flush the engine with something?, or just change the oil a couple times.

What else should I be looking at doing to the engine before trying to start it?

Thanks in advance!

Jason

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03-30-2015 @ 7:17 PM

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Put in some new El Cheapo 30W for the start up and then change the oil again after that with a high quality oil. You might want to put some Marvel Mystery Oil down in the cylinders through the spark plug holes to help things along.

Before starting you will want to check the Mac Van Pelt page for tips on starting long dormant Flatheads. See the link:

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_startup.htm

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03-30-2015 @ 7:37 PM

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If you haven't already, I would pull out the oil filter cartrige, drain the cannister and clean it out. It's probably full of crud and goo.

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03-30-2015 @ 7:40 PM

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If you haven't all ready, I would pull out the oil filter cartrige, drain and clean the cannister. It's probably full of crud and goo.

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03-30-2015 @ 7:42 PM

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Pull out the oil filter cartrige if y ou haven't all ready and clean it out, that is, if it has a filter. Of course if the engine is origional it won't have one. If it is a later engine it may have one.

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Sorry about the repeats. It appeared that they did not print the first 2 times

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03-31-2015 @ 4:47 AM

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The first thing I would do is get a copy of the V8 Clubs 1935-36 Ford Book see the online store on this web site.

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03-31-2015 @ 7:57 AM

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Van Pelts site has good information. I would do these additional tasks before trying to start the car.

I would fill the crankcase with a 10W-30 oil or even a 5W-20 oil to make sure that everything gets lubed right away. Then pull all of the spark plugs and crank the engine over a few times.

Next I would do a compression test to see if the valves and rings are doing their jobs. A little MMO can help free them up. If you can get compression readings above 70 lbs on all cylinders, then replace the plugs and check for spark by holding one of the plug wires close to a head nut. You will need a nice blue spark in order to start the engine.

If you do not have a nice blue spark, you should remove the distributor and coil and send the unit to Skip Haney in FL. He will rebuild your coil and check out the distributor.

http://www.fordcollector.com/water_pumps.htm

Now that you have spark and compression, you can hook up a temporary fuel source and try to start the engine.

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03-31-2015 @ 1:11 PM

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Have you removed the lower rad hoses yet to make sure that there is no build-up of sedimentation in the bottom of your radiator?

Taking the rad out of our '36 last year was not 100% fun. With luck, after carefully removing those old hoses, you might be able to take the cap off and rinse out the core with running water from a garden hose.

Don't be surprised if there are archaeological layers of crud settled down into the bottom of the car's radiator. You don't want any of that stuff getting into your engine.

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Thanks for all the input! I ordered the 35-36 book yesterday, and can't wait to read through it. I pulled the plugs, and put about an ounce of oil in each cylinder. I am going to rewire the car before I try to start it, so I have plenty of time to let the oil penetrate. A friend suggested mixing diesel fuel and oil 50/50, filling crankcase and running the engine 10 minutes, any thoughts on that?

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