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1936 Ford 4 Door Rear Fender Repair
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Mr Rogers |
02-19-2021 @ 3:55 PM
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A metal patch was placed on a damaged lower part of the fender by the previous owner. I don't plan on removing the patch and replacing it myself. But, would like to hear for my education from V-8 Ford members how a body repair man would approach a decent fix. The running board is not damaged as well as the balance of the fender. I haven't been able to locate a new replacement fender. Appreciate any/all input in that I'm not a heavy metal repair guy.
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nelsb01 |
02-19-2021 @ 7:08 PM
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I am not a body repair person, but have had patch panels installed. Looking at your photos it looks like the previous repair was to cut a piece of thinner metal and pop-rivet it over the originial fender metal. A true body repair person would have cut out the damaged fender metal and formed and fit a proper thickness piece of metal to the contour of the fender and then spot welded it in, and then finished welding with a wire feed welder, so that the panel would have been aligned with the removed damage area. Grind the wire feed weld down and then add a minimal amount of body filler to finish. This process is not hard for an experienced body repair person.
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MG |
02-19-2021 @ 7:38 PM
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Remove the patch and inspect the damage it hides. If it's just a dent, a good metal man can pound out any dent. If it's a hole or rust, well that another matter....
This message was edited by MG on 2-19-21 @ 7:39 PM
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3w2 |
02-20-2021 @ 11:01 AM
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Judging from your second photo, that fender has serious rust damage where it attaches to the body as well as the obvious damage at the running board. A good usable '36 sedan rear fender requiring minimal repair is not an especially rare or expensive item to find and replace what you have compared to the effort and expense of fixing the existing fender. Try wanted ads on this site and on fordbarn.com and you will likely find one in short order.
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kubes40 |
02-20-2021 @ 11:25 AM
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I agree with 3W2. Much cheaper in the long run to simply replace that fender.
Mike "Kube" Kubarth
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Mr Rogers |
02-20-2021 @ 2:45 PM
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Thanks guys, I had a club listing for a fender. I deleted the 8 day because of a scammer!! I'll think about listing again.
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Mr Rogers |
02-20-2021 @ 3:33 PM
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I did locate a Detroit, Mi company EMS who on their web show a rear fender repair patch. Anyone ever use them? I called their Tele # but get a strange AT&T message. No address shown except a PO Box.
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FrankM-RG5 |
02-21-2021 @ 10:37 AM
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To answer your question about how it is done. the first thing you need is a good pattern. If the fender on the other side is good you can make a pattern from that and flip it over for the side you need. A friend has a method of making a flexible shape pattern that will give you all the panel information. You could probably make a wooden buck out of hardwood to bend the flange over. It is a little long but here is a video about how to make a flexible shape pattern. You literally could make one yourself with some cardboard gauges and he could send you the finished part back. Not often done but possible. Here we are reproducing an E type fender. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-JQgPm4_7s
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wmsteed |
02-21-2021 @ 10:37 AM
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I have dealt with EMS in the past to buy patch panels for many projects, they make very good products. To repair the fender damage you have, requires a body, fender man that knows what he is doing, uses a gas welder in lieu of a wire feed and butt welds the patch in, in lieu of overlapping the new metal. Work done by a good metal man will not require any plastic filler. My metal man makes his own patch panels using an 'English wheel' and a lot of shaping to get the panel perfect before welding. I just had a pair of front fenders for a '64-66 GM C-10 rebuilt to correct rust-out in the lower area of the fender, a double layer affair where the fender bolts to the lower cowl. The cost to repair the fenders was $300. per fender, I could have bought aftermarket replacements for $199. each. I opted to fix the original fender's because the re-pop fenders are three gauges thinner than the originals. For the most part any replacement fender you find will be worse than yours and cost you a couple hundred bucks at the least.
Bill 36 5 win delx cpe
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