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help with identifying a flathead 37 or 38 or ??
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1937sedandelivery |
09-09-2020 @ 11:15 AM
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I am looking to buy a flathead for my 37. I have located one here in Tucson but am not sure what year it is. Please review the pics and let me know thoughts. One of the pics barely shows an oil canister on top of the engine. I don't think this was original to the 37? Thanks, gregg
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CharlieStephens |
09-09-2020 @ 11:33 AM
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It has 21 studs with the water pumps in the block. That makes it '37 or '38. There may have been some subtle differences between the two but I don't know them. I think the firing order on the heads came from a European military engine but someone will need to confirm that. Charlie Stephens
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3w2 |
09-09-2020 @ 11:36 AM
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It's a '37 engine or perhaps an early '38 with a different year's intake manifold, post-production service cylinder heads, and a post-production oil filter canister. The key identifier is the cylinder head stud count at 21 per side. Earlier 21-stud engines have the water pumps incorporated into the front of the cylinder heads and later engines have 24 cylinder head studs.
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1937sedandelivery |
09-09-2020 @ 1:33 PM
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Thanks guys. Being a 37 engine, i will probably go for it. Who knows what i will find inside. I have never torn apart a flathead, will see how it goes....gulp. gregg
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37RAGTOPMAN |
09-09-2020 @ 3:40 PM
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HI That's a 1937 TRUCK ENGINE, 77-6050 part number on the one head, buy the best RUST BUSTER, you can find you are going to NEED IT hope this helps. 1937Ragtopman
This message was edited by 37RAGTOPMAN on 9-9-20 @ 3:44 PM
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alanwoodieman |
09-09-2020 @ 4:54 PM
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I can tell you one thing for sure--get it off that engine stand before it falls off and breaks the bell housing and your toes! built one like that with the block off plates to go into a 36--
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1937sedandelivery |
09-09-2020 @ 9:09 PM
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Super, thanks for nailing this down. It will be good enough to go into my Sedan Delivery, kinda like a truck. Anyway, this is very helpful. My SD is in extremely rough condition so the engine goes along with that. It's gonna be a long road, but ain't got nothin else going on in this covid world. gregg
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TomO |
09-10-2020 @ 7:13 AM
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Get a money back guarantee that the block is usable. It looks like it has been stored outside with no cover. It could have serious internal damage. Second the warning about the engine stand.
Tom
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1937sedandelivery |
09-10-2020 @ 7:41 AM
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Absolutely. My fingers are crossed. gregg
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TonyM |
09-10-2020 @ 4:43 PM
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According to the club's 1937 book, 77-6050 are service replacement heads for US passenger cars and were also installed as part of 1937 US production after February 1937, replacing the aluminum heads 78-6050. I have these exact heads, with firing order, on my 1937 Ford. That 1937 Ford book is full of great info.
. . . 78-730B
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