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EFV-8 Club Forum / Light Commercial Truck Discussion / '48 - '52 F1 Pickup Question

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JerryG
10-20-2010 @ 7:46 PM
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Hi guys. Is there any difference in the frame, running gear, transmission, etc for the '48 - '52 F1 pickups between the V8 and the Six? Like there are for early Mustangs for instance? I see some good deals on Sixes, but I don't know if there are differences, or what to look for. Thnx, JerryG

51f1
10-21-2010 @ 7:43 AM
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The frame is the same. The six is longer than the eight, so the radiator with the six sits forward of the position for the eight. There are multiple holes in the frame and associated body parts (inner fenders, radiator support, air deflector under the hood, etc.) to accommodate both engines. There is a splash shield added between the grille and the bottom front of the radiator on the eight to fill the gap caused by the radiator being mounted aft of the position for the six. The transmissions, drive shafts and rear ends are all the same. Of course, the radiators are different.

Anyway, that's how I remember it. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.



Richard

JerryG
10-21-2010 @ 8:21 PM
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Thanks 51f1. That sounds good. Like I said, I see some fairly nice Sixes advertised at reasonable prices. I have always like the body style on these, and at this point in my aging process, I just want to drive one down to the corner store, etc. I can listen to the V8 in my '34 when I want to hear the sound. Jerry G

supereal
10-22-2010 @ 9:33 AM
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There is nothing wrong with the flathead six. They developed more horsepower and torque than the V8, but Henry wouldn't stand for this being published to protect his "baby", the V8, so they were "de-rated" in specs. The six was used in many trucks because of its power.

51f1
10-24-2010 @ 5:07 AM
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I restored my '51 F-1 just so I could experience driving a "new" 1951 truck, and it does sound just like the Ford trucks I saw and heard as a kid (it's a V-8). Although my engine and drive train operate smoothly, these trucks are crude. If you want to listen to the radio, you had better plan to park the truck and turn off the engine. I have often thought that the 6 had more horsepower and torque than the V-8 and that Henry just didn't want us to know.

Richard

This message was edited by 51f1 on 10-24-10 @ 5:09 AM

Stroker
10-24-2010 @ 7:50 AM
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We had 2 Flathead sixes in the 50's & 60's One was an F-6, and the other an F-1 pickup.
In comparison to say our 50 GMC, the 51 F-1 six was a hot rod. In driving both V8's and 6's
I'd have to say that in stock form, the six had more torque. I've always been a V8 fan, but
I was really surprised at the performance of that 51 six.

Norm
10-26-2010 @ 11:44 AM
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I have a '48 F-1 with the H-series six. It's a great truck.

When I was a kid in the 50's it was common knowledge that a 49-51 six would whip a stock V-8. I've seen many unbelievers lose a lot of money betting on the wrong side.

The sixes just don't get any respect!!

Norm

Norm
10-26-2010 @ 11:48 AM
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By the way - another difference between six and V-8 is that the voltage regulator on the six is on the drivers side (I think it's on the passenger side on the V-8). That makes a difference if you want to replace the wiring harness.

Norm

trjford8
10-26-2010 @ 8:20 PM
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Just for info the 52 F-1 6 cylinder is an overhead 6.

truckdog62563
10-28-2010 @ 2:23 PM
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trjford8 makes an important point. In '52 Ford intro'd the 215 c.i. OHV six which required that the frame motor mount cross members be changed to accommodate the new engine. The 48-51 mounts are more "J" shaped while the 52 mounts are almost at a 45°
angle. Stu McMillan

Stu McMillan

'52 F-3 Marmon Herrington V8
'52 F-3 Marmon Herrington I6

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