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V8 makes for sleepless night - Rebuild or Reman?
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37RAGTOPMAN |
03-17-2010 @ 8:49 AM
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When you drained the oil did any antifeeze come out,sounds like to me that the oil pump failed or antfreeze dripped into the oil pan over time,causing your problem, seizing the engine,pull the oil pan and pull a rod bearings out and check 1 at a time, and also the main bearing,and does the oil have a burnt smell? if one of the rods is the problem or a main bearing the metal might be dry and burnt oil on the metal from the heat, a quick look will tell might tell you were the problem lies. if it is antifreeze you will have the engine magnafluxed the block to see if it is cracked on the inside, my 3 cents 37RAGTOPMAN
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BMora |
03-15-2010 @ 6:52 PM
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Just as I suspected, the removal of the spark plugs did not allow me to rotate the crank shaft. I have reached out to Mark and awaiting his response.
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supereal |
03-14-2010 @ 9:33 AM
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The crankshaft is replaceable, but if it is scored deeply from a lack of lubrication, and not a candidate for repair, it is more cost effective to find a whole engine for rebuilding. We grind cranks in our shop, and very old ones are usually already undersize, and don't leave enough material to use available oversize bearing inserts. As earlier said, there is no way to know how much damage you have without a full disassembly of the engine. Labor for that usually runs in the 300-500 dollar range. If an engine is seized, you may not want to invest in the cost to find out whether it is usable.
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39 Ken |
03-14-2010 @ 7:41 AM
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To join the national, go to the Home page on this site. Look on the menu to the left and click on the membership link. Or, you can click on this link and it will take you directly there. https://secure.cornerstonereg.com/efv8/index.htm Then join your local region in Rochester by going to their website. Welcome to the best Ford club going. Ken
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BMora |
03-13-2010 @ 6:13 PM
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Thanks for the contact information! I also like hearing that my block is likely fine. Foirgive me for being naive, I don't understand why it sounds like a crankshaft is not replaceable? Could mine be damaged? Unfortunately, it was another day of cold rain and did not get out to try to rotate the crankshaft with out the plugs in. I will keep you guys posted. You are such a great group of people! How do I join the EFV/8 club?
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39 Ken |
03-13-2010 @ 11:20 AM
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The region itself is located in the Rochester area. Here's a link to their website. Ken http://www.wnyrg.org/
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Pat's 52 |
03-13-2010 @ 10:47 AM
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Contact Mark Moriarty, VALVE-EN-BLOCS, 3798 Rt.19, Warsaw, NY 14569 (585)786-2876.E-Mail: mkansas32@yahoo.com. Mark is in Western NY and has been rebuilding Flat Head engines for years. He is a member of the Early Ford V8 Club.
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TomO |
03-13-2010 @ 9:45 AM
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IMHO have the engine rebuilt rather than buy a re-manufactured engine. This will give you some control over the quality of the work. Some of these shops that re-manufacture the engines do not have people familiar enough with the older engines to do a good job and they may mix parts from different years that may not be compatible. Another reason is that your engine is a low mileage one and has not had its cooling passages deteriorated by years of use. All of the internal components can be readily found to rebuild your engine. There are still some NOS Ford parts available for the 49-53 engines available. I would rather skip one season of driving, than put up with a poorly rebuilt engine.
Tom
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supereal |
03-13-2010 @ 8:38 AM
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There are two usual reasons for cracked blocks, other than normal expansion and contraction of the cast iron. They are loss of coolant, and freezing. Since your engine started and ran before seizing, I wouldn't expect either cause in your case. If lubrication was lost, the important question is whether the crankshaft was scored, and if any of the pistons damaged a cylinder wall. The rest, rods, inserts, etc, can be replaced. Most engine exchanges require the exchange of a reusable "core", or the outright cost can get steep.
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BMora |
03-13-2010 @ 8:35 AM
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I'm actually in the Rochester Area. Would Bob still be the person to contact?
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