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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Restore or not

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silverchief
01-27-2016 @ 10:05 AM
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I also have a 46 coupe. In looking at your car, it appears your upholstery is the same as mine. Looking at page 3-37 of 41-48 Ford Book you will see that is a "special option custom interior" programmed for only 10,000 cars to be produced April through June 1947 I have owned my coupe 14 years, and during that time have enjoyed little by little bringing it back to the beautiful car it is today.

bigvince
01-26-2016 @ 12:30 PM
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It's only original once.

woodiewagon46
12-12-2015 @ 6:53 AM
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Since you are new to the V-8 Club you will soon receive a copy of the 2016 "Roster of Members". In it you find a clear definition of the judging guidelines for the Rouge class. Most of the items that can be replaced are common sense, such as any safety related items, hoses, belts, generator and starter, distributor and wires, exhaust etc. Cosmetic condition and wear and tear is considered normal. The goal is to keep your car running and as original as possible. The judges are very fair and will welcome your car and any questions you have.

46coupe
12-12-2015 @ 3:57 AM
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Sorry for the double post. Very glad to have found these last posts. Guess I don't have to paint anything or make anything "new"again.Unfortunately I had to put in a trunk mat.but that is all I've done.I will definitely get the rules for the rouge class.


46coupe
12-11-2015 @ 3:20 PM
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Thank you so much for your input. Preservation was my goal but I wanted some thoughts about restoring this car. Did it need to be restored or not? Is there a class at the shows for original cars? etc Many more questions came to mind, as well. You all answered all my questions plus added info that will help me in my work.I look forward to meeting you all at one of the meets / shows.
Thanks again
Brad

46coupe
12-11-2015 @ 3:08 PM
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Don't know what happened to my last post. Basically I agreed with the preserve comments. That has been my goal but wanted to check here for thoughts on restoring.
Again I want to thank everyone for their input.I will be checking out the key mechanicals for safety and then maintaining and researching the car. I hope to meet you all someday at one of the meets.
Brad

len47merc
12-11-2015 @ 11:10 AM
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46coupe - not to hammer it to death, in your first post you stated in your last sentence "...should I totally restore the car or maintain what I have and address the imperfections and restore the running gear inside and out instead". Reference again the judging specs and what can and what should not be changed/replaced in order to qualify for a Rouge class award for originality. Try to gain a keen understanding here, if you do not have it already, of what 'running gear' truly involves and preserve it, as you say, as much as you can. For instance, when pulling the motor (if necessary) to replace a rear main seal (and while you are at it inspect the clutch/pressure plate and replace if necessary as well) it would not be advisable if pursuing a Rouge award to completely clean the motor and motor compartment (or to take it a step further [heaven forbid!] repaint much of either) - the judge(s) may deem it to have been 'over-restored' and not award you the running gear certification. 'Imperfections' many times (perhaps most times is more accurate) are actually glorious representations and validations of a truly original car.

The original front floor mat in my '47 Merc, which quite fortunately has an otherwise unblemished original interior, was also unblemished upon receipt of the car, but once it was gently lifted to replace the master cylinder it began to crack and crumble. With excellent advice from this forum and the EFV8 technical adviser I have left it as is rather that replace it or cover it - judges have complimented me for my 'taste' (!?) in leaving it as is and stated that added to the validation of the car for its Interior Rouge Class Award. Initially I saw it as an 'imperfection' - now I see it as a beauty mark from birth.

Be careful - what you deem to be an 'imperfection' may actually be looked at by others (judges, knowledgeable buyers, etc.) as golden. I find it hard to believe personally how much I NOW am attracted to a original dust and oil/grease covered engine compartment of a car that was driven (not trailored) 100+ miles to a Meet. Interesting these owners always seem to have the biggest smiles on their faces as well.

Steve

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46coupe
12-11-2015 @ 10:33 AM
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Just checked the new comments. Preserve is what my goal has been, but I wanted input as to what would be the best path to take. I think that has been addressed by all your great comments and support/ suggestions.
Thank you all very much.

TomO
12-11-2015 @ 8:44 AM
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Here is another vote for keeping it original and enjoying it.

The head liner is held up by bows that are threaded through loops in the fabric. Glue will stain the fabric.

Just so you don't spend many hours and lots of money, most Fords from the 32-48 era, drip a little if they are driven.

The front crankshaft seal can be replaced by a full circle seal and that usually fixes the leak there. You can replace the rear rope seal with a more modern rope type seal, but you will have to pull the engine in order to do the job correctly.

Follow Len47Merc's advice and read the rules about what changes are allowed in the Rouge Class. He and I both have Rouge cars,

Tom

This message was edited by TomO on 12-11-15 @ 8:46 AM

woodiewagon46
12-11-2015 @ 7:41 AM
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I agree with the "keep it as original" suggestions, remember it's only original once. Your '46 is too nice to restore. I would make it safe by looking over the braking system. Make sure the wiring is in good shape and all lighting is in working order. Yes, join the V-8 Club and attend their advertised shows, you would be welcome in the Rouge Class. Enjoy the car as it is and in the future if you think the car is in need of a restoration by all means do so. I think you will find that you will get more enjoyment from a car like yours that you can drive and not be afraid of getting caught in the rain or parking it in a lot. Have fun with it!

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