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Grant

07-12-2014 @ 4:50 AM

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Modifications and repair work are now complete. All parts previously mentioned have been installed in our '36 roadster, including the new 1969 Ford dual reservoir master cylinder. The result is a massive improvement in braking performance.

All parts fit perfectly. The only silly-ass problem which developed was trying to find a correct replacement banjo bolt........the old one broke during disassembly.

Two minor modifications were necessary:

1. a small cover plate had to be installed in the floor ahead of the battery box to allow access to the top of the longer new master cylinder

2. because the dual reservoir master cylinder intruded into the battery box, a vertical steel plate was welded into the middle of the battery box and the car now has a state-of-the-art Optima battery instead of the old acid unit (thank you to Ken Bounds who recommended Amazon as a supplier.......low price, fast service, and free shipping).

FORUM refuses to let me post photos. If anyone wants to see photographs of the installation, I would be pleased to provide them via email.

Or maybe another member could contact me at 519-666-2891 and walk me through the Browse process so that photos can be posted here? I simply cannot make it work.

42merc

01-20-2014 @ 12:59 PM

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IMO , in my opinion

You will have to join the Ford Barn site to PM (private message) Zeke.
IMO it's a great site.

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01-20-2014 @ 11:50 AM

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Okay, I'm confused. Or computer-incompetent. Or more likely both.

How does a person send a PM to Zeke on this web site's Forum when his posting is on Fordbarn ?

And what does IMO mean? I have never seen that abbreviation anywhere before.

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01-19-2014 @ 2:46 PM

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As TomO said, PM him on the forum. You might have to register to do it, but the Fordbarn and this site complement each other and every old Ford addict should belong to each one, IMO.

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01-19-2014 @ 2:41 PM

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You can send Zeke a PM by mousing over his name and then clicking send PM. The Fordbarn doesn't have the SEND PM box like this Forum.

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01-19-2014 @ 7:18 AM

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40cpe......

That's a very interesting series of posts on Fordbarn, a site which I've never seen before.

Evidently there are other flathead fanatics out there who find the early braking systems to be a little bit scary sometimes.

Could you please let me know how I might go about contacting Zeke off-line ?

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01-16-2014 @ 7:23 PM

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This dual cylinder/proportioning valve subject came up during this thread on the Fordbarn
http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49305

Scroll down until you see a post by Zeke…PA He has installed '39 brakes with a dual cylinder on his '37 and didn't have to use a valve.

I've talked to him off-line, he is a helpful person and would probably be glad to share his experience with you.

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01-16-2014 @ 2:50 PM

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If you install a dual master cylinder system, he is correct. The proportioning valve prevents one set of the two from being over applied in a panic stop, thus causing a lockup and skid. Some valves are adjustable. Brakes are one of the most carefully designed parts of any vehicle. "Home brewing" can result in a dangerous situation. Given the age of most collector cars, a dual system is a very good idea, but only with expert guidance.

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Tom O and Supereal......thanks again for your input.

Chassis Engineering does sell a similar master cylinder adapter plate, a little bit cheaper than Drake.

As it turns out, front wheel cylinders and rebuild kits are not available locally in this area. They would have to be ordered from out of town via a distributor in the USA.

Jerry at the Wagner tech line 800-325-8886 advised that their 1939 front wheel cylinder part numbers were deleted as far back as 1995. And they do not sell re-manufactured hydraulic wheel cylinders of any kind. However Wagner does list rear wheel cylinders (WC25098 and WC25099, left and right respectively).

Kyle at C&G was very helpful this morning. That supplier has the correct step bore 21A-2061 and 21A-2062 front wheel cylinders, as well as front flex lines which will fit properly.

C&G can also supply front wheel cylinder rebuild kits.

The shop which is going to do the master cylinder conversion for us will also be installing the front wheel cylinders and flex lines as part of the job. They don't want to "chase parts", and require the car to arrive with all necessary parts provided.

I have therefore ordered new front wheel cylinders and flex lines from C&G. If somehow a problem develops, C&G also has rebuild kits in stock so our old cylinders can be rebuilt if that turns out to be necessary.

QUESTION......

Jerry the Wagner tech has recommended that we install an adjustable proportioning valve as part of the new braking system so that the rear wheels won't lock up if the brakes are applied hard. Do you think that is a good idea? Is anyone else out there using an adjustable proportioning valve on their early V8?

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As usual, I agree with Tom. I recommend C&G frequently because they rarely backorder anything. They are honest about what is in stock and I have yet to be disappointed with the quality of their parts. While I admire Bob Drake, and his commitment to the hobby, backorders there have become a problem. If you would like to shop for good brake conversions, try Chassis Engineering. Their catalog has a full page for 1935-1940 Ford brakes. Their web site is www.chassisengineeringinc.com

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