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Posted By Discussion Topic: 37 coupe found-need new title -- page: 1 2     38tudorflatback 01-11-2010 @ 2:50 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 8 Joined: Jan 2010 I recently bought a 37 Ford Coupe that was stored in a Milwaukee garage since 1974, complete with CA blackplates showing registration stickers from 1974. No title but the frame is stamped *18-3337548*. I wrote the CA DMV and they confirm the VIN is no longer in their system. WI will not issue a title without me surrendering one. How can I get a title for this correct VIN? Thanx in advance for any help! supereal 01-11-2010 @ 3:40 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 I don't know about WI licensing laws, but here (in Iowa) we have what is called a "bonded title". When you apply for a new title, you place a modest amount in escrow, to be refunded at which time it is established that no title dispute has evolved. You are fortunate to have located a clear frame stamp, as it will probably be confirmed by a cursory inspection by a law officer. This sounds like red tape, and it is, but it protects you from a claim on the car, which happens more than one might think. In our jurisdiction, the DMV has been very helpful when we have had a title problem. Most DMV's don't retain much, if any, registration information that goes back more than a very few years, and will not even look at "title mill" documents. 51f1 01-11-2010 @ 4:08 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 573 Joined: Oct 2009 Move to GA and you won't need a title. They did not issue titles before a date in the '60s and do not require and will not issue one for any vehicle manufactured before that date. All I had to do when I finished my restoration was to have a police officer verify my engine number, and they issued me a tag. That's the way it should be everywhere. Richard trjford8 01-11-2010 @ 7:28 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 4232 Joined: Oct 2009 Check and see how they handle a "lost title". If the car is clear in Calif.(no record on file)then there is probably no record on the car anywhere else.There has to be a way to get a title on the car by filing a lost title claim with the DMV.People lose titles when they move or when a car is in an estate, etc. You may have to tell them you have owned the car for X number of years and you cannot find the title. Do not show them the Calif. plates. Another way to get title is through a lien sale. I'm sure you can do this in your state. Tell them the car was abandoned on your property by a renter and you need to get title so you can sell it and recoupe some lost rent. DMV wants your money, so if you go there with a fistfull of it, you will leave with a title.Govt.has a huge appetite for $ larryb346 01-11-2010 @ 8:04 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 27 Joined: Jan 2010 trjford8 Not sure where you live but here in Missouri and I am sure all 50 states that is called fraud. Sorry you feel that is a lawful thing to recommend to anyone, lie to government officials. Just my 2 cents worth mdadisman 01-11-2010 @ 9:18 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 4 Joined: Jan 2010 Here is the phone number of a person in Sacramento,CA that can possibly help you with your problem. The name is Professional Registration Services and their number is 916-443-5679. They should be able to walk you through the process to get a lost title for your car. Michael 37RAGTOPMAN 01-12-2010 @ 6:23 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1969 Joined: Oct 2009 in MAINE if you have a hand writtern bill of sale, they accept it and will issue you plates,being the car is before 1980,[ its a matter of them trusting you,we do this at the borough hall is our DMV,dies that plus more,] I would go to DMV with the hand writtern bill of sale ,talk directly to the person in charge,they will know more than someone behind the counter, and will tell you what you might have to do to get a title, you might have to have it authorized by a Notary Public,have it stamped. hope this helps, let hear how you made out, 37RAGTOPMAN TomO 01-12-2010 @ 6:50 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7263 Joined: Oct 2009 The seller of the car can obtain a replacement title by following the procedure on this web site. http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/drivers/vehicles/title/replace.htm Tom wmsteed 01-12-2010 @ 9:40 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 613 Joined: Oct 2009 The info posted by Tomo is probably going to be your best source to obtain a clear title for the '37. You should probably omit mentioning that the car has California plates... just go with the VIN on the frame because it appears to be correct for a '37 Ford. The seller of the vehicle probably has the best chance of getting a replacement title in WI because they can truthfully state that they have "owned" the vehicle since 1974. It might be interesting to find out why someone would park a vehicle with out of state registration in a garage in WI since 1974... but then again it just could be that the car has doubtful lineage? When the VIN actually hits a data base, it just could possibility turn out to be a stolen car. A vehicle normally falls off of the California system in six years, however, if the car was ever listed as being stolen, it is in a national data base, which never goes away until the vehicle is recovered. Undocumented vehicles are becoming a big deal in many states because of a big rise in theft as a result of high scrap prices and the Rat Rod craze. Idaho can require the search of all adjoining state records for undocumented vehicles. California is also getting very touchy about the subject, requiring two VIN location verifications and/or VIN and data plate verification. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe supereal 01-12-2010 @ 3:20 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 You just can't be too careful. I once received a car in lieu of payment for damage to one of our trucks. The fellow swore he had never titled it, but we found five liens from his use of the car as collateral for loans. In this day of scam after scam, third party escrow is a good move when dealing with an unknown "seller".

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