Post to the EFV-8 Forum
Post Classified Ads
Shop the Online Store

User Login

Not Registered Yet? Click Here to Sign Up!

Early Ford V-8 Club Forum

FORUM RULES: Users agree to these Rules when using Forum.

The site administrator reserves the right to change the terms and conditions of the user agreement without prior notice to the user. It is the responsibility of the user to regularly review the terms of this agreement.

The user agrees to the following terms:

All information that you provide to us for your membership is correct.
You will not use your membership to spam, harrass, or exploit other members in any way.
Vulgar, Abusive, Racist and Sexist Language will not be tolerated.
Commercial-type sales postings will not be allowed.
No mass posting or flooding of the boards is allowed.
No Advertising of parts or cars; no Ebay or business/commercial ads (please use the "Classified" for ads Wanted or For Sale).
VIEWING MULTIPLE TOPICS ON SCREEN: You can choose to see more than 10 Topics at a time ... Log In and choose "Preferences" from the top bar on the Forum page. Scroll down and Change the "Default Topics Returned" parameter to 25 or 50, and save the changes. Since this setting is stored in your browser 'cookies' (if enabled), it seems to use that stored value even if you are not logged in. So, if you use a PC that you haven't logged into the forum from, the setting still seem to remain at the default.
EXTERNAL PHOTO LINKS ON FORUM: You can still use external photo links in your posts on the new forum. They follow the rules of any link in that they have to have the URL link qualified down to the full image file name (example: .jpg). The links will open in a new browser window, the same as an uploaded image attached to a post. Since an image attachment to any post does not display inline with the post, the results are the same. You can use multiple external links within a post. This link is from photos on a site from Don Clink's 'Deuce@75' albums:

http://donclink.com/deuce_75_1/images/dscn2950.jpg

Using links from photo sites such as Photobucket can help in "size" issue with uploaded attachment files. For best viewing in web browsers, photos should be around the 800x600 pixel range, and probably not more than 1024x768. Most cameras today store HUGE jpg image files, as the default settings are in the 7, 8, 10, and 12Mb image sizes. The image files that are then attached are very large, and the browser can't display the full image size without using the scroll bars. Use the re-sizing functions of your photo editing software to reduce the image to 800x600, which reduces the file sixe and the image load time in the browser. Don uses Google's free Picassa3 software, which is an excellent photo management product. All of the photo albums of the Deuce, Grand National, and Auburn that are links on the NORG site were built using Picassa's web creation functions. And it's free? (THANKS to Don Clink for the info!)
HOW DO I SHOW MY EMAIL ADDRESS ALONG WITH MY USERNAME? You can LogIn on the Forum, and select PREFERENCES. On this page Members can add optional information such as their City,State, Country; Occupation; Hobbies: list a Homepage; list AOL Instant Messanger Handle; Signature; "Make Email Address viewable to others;" and even change the number of Default Topics shown on a page. WHEN others click on your profile, they will see this information.

EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Can't start my engine

Reply to Discussion | New Discussion

<< previous || next >>

Posted By

Discussion Topic: Can't start my engine

miwi

09-26-2011 @ 3:54 AM

reply profile send p.m.

Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Feb 2011

Hi,

I couldn't find a better topic title. Let me discribe the problem.
I had installed a french block in my F1. I had convert everything that is necessary from 6V to 12V. I had crank the engine with the 12V starter a few times with out problems. Before I wanted to start the engine I tried to crank it again the starter. I had added water, install the fuel line and the rest of the eletrical users. Water & Oil level is ok. I wanted to start the engine, but the engine turns a bit (your hear that the starter engages), stops, turns, etc.. At first I forgot the ground on the governor, I add the ground and again it turns, stops etc.
I had checked the battery and I measeured appr. 14V, which means it is charged.
Before I continue, does anybody has an idea whats wrong?

Thanks for your help

Michael

TomO

09-26-2011 @ 7:17 AM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 7253
Joined: Oct 2009

If all that was changed from when you were able to crank the engine to the current situation, I would look into a leaking head gasket.

A no load voltage reading on a battery does not give a good indication of the state of charge. Measure the voltage when the starter is engaged.

Try turning the engine over by hand. Try using the starter without the plugs.

Tom

supereal

09-26-2011 @ 10:13 AM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 6819
Joined: Oct 2009

Pull the spark plugs and try the starter. If the engine is "hydrolocked" (water in a cylinder) you will see it come out of the affected cylinder. Hydrolock can be due to a leaking head gasket, or a cracked block or head. Water doesn't compress. As it occured after the water was installed, I'd guess that is where the problem started (no pun). TomO and I are on the same page on this one. The only reliable ways to check a battery is by hydrometer, or a tester with a variable load. You can get some kind of an idea of the charge by putting the headlights on for a few minutes to remove the "surface charge. In your case, I don't think the battery is at fault. I wouldn't keep trying to crank the engine until you know there is no hydrolock, or piston and rod damage is likely.

miwi

09-26-2011 @ 11:42 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Feb 2011

Thanks for the hints. I'll keep you informed

Michael

shogun1940

09-29-2011 @ 7:27 AM

reply profile send p.m.

Member
Posts: 464
Joined: Feb 2010

I have a french flathead, did you build it or did you send it out??

miwi

09-29-2011 @ 11:30 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Member
Posts: 14
Joined: Feb 2011

@TomO, @supereal,

I did what you recommended, no water comes out of spark plug holes. But I found water leaking through the center stud. I had removed the cylinder head checked the gasket and the cylinder bores. I could see a few drops, but I think that comes aout of head during disassembly.

@shotgun1940
I bought one of complete engine military engines that were sold here in Germany.

Michael

TomO

09-30-2011 @ 8:39 AM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 7253
Joined: Oct 2009

Michael, did you try turning the engine over by hand?

If you can turn the engine over by hand, I would try to turn it over with the ignition switch off. You may have a timing problem.

If it still acts the same, I would have the starter checked. The bushings could be worn, causing it to fail under load.

Tom

<< previous || next >>

NOTE: YOU MUST BE A REGISTERED USER AND BE LOGGED IN TO POST (and reply to) messages in this forum. If you are a first time user, please click the CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT in the masthead above to register and Log In. After that, all you do is LOG IN to enjoy using this site.

DISCLAIMER: The V-8 Club does no independent testing of any of the opinions, thoughts or suggestions presented in the website on the Forum, in the Tech Tips section, or any section. A reader should consider the website to be a forum wherein differing solutions to a particular set of circumstances may be discussed. Ultimately, the selection of an item for an individual's vehicle must be based upon the independent study of the vehicle owner in consultation with people in the hobby and restoration experts.

Early Ford V-8 Club Forum

Merchandise Questions

Membership Questions