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Posted By Discussion Topic: 36 Ford, need help -- page: 1 2     TomO 08-22-2011 @ 6:45 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7250 Joined: Oct 2009 That is a great "barn find". It is difficult to tell anything about the stretch because of the angle, but it looks similar to the stretch that was common to funeral cars and special ordered taxi cabs. Tom Cadillac Ranch Norway 08-22-2011 @ 2:20 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 3 Joined: Aug 2011 Here is a photo of the rare extended Model 68XA (according to the Ford identityplate) we found recently in a barn in Norway hidden since early 50`s. ford38v8 08-17-2011 @ 6:00 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2758 Joined: Oct 2009 Tom & Bill, I'll have to grudgingly agree with everything you both have said. A factor not brought up here is debt service, something that was almost a non-issue back in the day. It just baffles me as to why so many poeple view credit card interest as a required fact of life. My position is hereby modified to point up the unreal disparity between the working class' compensation and that of the ugly rich. Alan wmsteed 08-17-2011 @ 10:17 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 613 Joined: Oct 2009 OK Alan, So you think the average working person is not better off and/or is poorly compensated for his efforts. It all boils down to how you look at things.. Is the glass half empty, or is it half full. I come from a long line of working class people that emigrated to this country in the early 1840's.. My father was a journeyman Ceramic Tile Layer and he passed the trade onto me.. I have carried a journeyman's card for 57 years.. During the past 57 years I have enjoyed a very good life style, I put 5 kids through college and have accumulated a lot of toys, antique cars and Rec vehicles. The big problem with to many people today is that they want everything, yet they don't want to work for it. They want big brother to hand it to them. It is true that the rich get rich, and the poor get kids. However, the rich being rich is a good thing because they spend money... The poor getting kids is also a good thing if they educate them into being responsible citizens. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe TomO 08-17-2011 @ 7:33 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7250 Joined: Oct 2009 In 1936 the average working man's family lived in a dwelling of less than 1,000 square ft. Some families had radios or phonographs, not both. The man had 1 suit and a couple of pairs of trousers or jeans, the woman had 2 or 3 nice dresses and 4 or 5 daily dresses. They each and 1 pair of shoes and some people even had the list goes on of all of things we take for granted today that were not available to people in the 30's and 40's. Today the average home is around 2,000 square ft and most families have 2 cars, a large screen tv, kids that go to college and many other expenses that require 2 incomes. I was taught that the rich are the people that have a good family, good friends and are not envious of other peoples riches. Tom ford38v8 08-16-2011 @ 12:39 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2758 Joined: Oct 2009 Bill, I'll take issue with your statement that the average working man is better off today. While that is true in regard to working conditions and technological advances in daily lifestyle, today he is inadequately compensated for his work. It used to be said that "Two can live cheaper than one". Today, it takes two wages to maintain a household. There is another old saying that is truer today than ever before; "The rich get richer and the poor get poorer." Alan supereal 08-16-2011 @ 10:47 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 I have always been amazed at the craftsmanship used to produce the "professional cars", even in the early years. I suspect that many of the panels were made using an "English wheel" or similiar device, rather than cutting up the stock panels. Some of these vehicles, particularly the hearses, are truly a work of art. As TomO points out, labor costs were quite different then, but so was the effort and skill displayed. The fit and finish evident on today's cars shows that we have lost most, if not all, of that art. wmsteed 08-16-2011 @ 10:46 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 613 Joined: Oct 2009 I am very much aware that "costs are relative", however, nothing really ever changes, just more zeros get added to the final number. The fact of the matter is that the average working man is a lot better off now, than he was in 1936... I have an ad that compared a '36 Ford DeLux sedan with a '76 Ford Granada... The average Ford worker worked for a whole year to earn the cost of a '36 Ford, where-as the same man would have worked a whole year to earn the cost of the '76 Granada. The big difference was that the '36 Ford was basic transportation where-as the Granada had V8, AT, power disk brakes, PS and air conditioning. Another big difference was that the '36 Ford could not pass the safety/smog requirements of 1976. The vehicles used to make this comparison was a '36 Ford sedan from the Ford collection and a new 76 Granada fresh off of show room floor. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe TomO 08-16-2011 @ 6:54 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7250 Joined: Oct 2009 Bill, cost is relative, in 1936 $100 would be more than a months pay for the average worker. I have pay stubs from my mothers job as a secretary in 1939. She made $15 a week working for the WPA. Tom wmsteed 08-15-2011 @ 9:35 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 613 Joined: Oct 2009 The difference between the quality of the craftsmanship in 1936 and 1989 would be like night and day. The "coach-built" welding and fitting of body panels would be done in such a manner that the welds would have been done by hand, butt welded, using gas welders in lieu of over lapped welds using electric welders. The chassis/frame might be a different story.. The original builder could have used a custom built frame. In 1936 the cost for a custom built frame would not of been that expensive... Probably way under a $100. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe

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