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Posted By Discussion Topic: 49 radio speaker grill     proxie35 05-17-2011 @ 5:04 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 74 Joined: Jun 2010 Alan, I have Letters M1-M144 & 5 books of Service Bulletins. Sherrel PS. My point is the first 49s produced did have the chrome speaker grill. I've owned more than 15, 49-51 fords over the past 58 years & I sure never knew this untill last week. The question was asked on Shoeboxford. I've owned & restored at lest 50 different cars over the past 43 years. These include Fords, Chev. Pont. Buicks & Cad. & I learn something new each Day. This message was edited by proxie35 on 5-17-11 @ 5:30 AM ford38v8 05-16-2011 @ 9:11 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2762 Joined: Oct 2009 Sherrel, Upon seeing the letter, it stands to reason that the dash came as a complete assembly, and shipments to assembly plants after Jun 21 would have been with the painted grilles. There is nothing in the letter to indicate a mandate, so it should be assumed that at least some grilles may have been chrome until stock on hand had been used up. With the letter being dated almost 2 months after the action date, it appears that it was merely advice to dealers on how to deal with complaints from owners of glare from the chrome. A letter to dealers on such matters being of less import than a letter to assembly plants, your letter nevertheless contributes background information invaluable to the work of the history detectives. As you said, even Cecil had not heard of this memo. Thank you for posting it, and if you have any more, we'd appreciate seeing them also. Alan proxie35 05-16-2011 @ 7:19 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 74 Joined: Jun 2010 Thanks Alen, This is the Service Letter. ford38v8 05-16-2011 @ 5:49 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2762 Joined: Oct 2009 Sherrel, being a Master Senior Judge with the EFV8CA myself, I concur that we need ongoing training. Once we begin to think we know everything, we become of little use to the Club or to the members who have their cars judged. As more and more information continues to surface, the rules of the game do change from time to time. I do wish to comment on your service letter, however: I"ll remind you that at least with Ford, there is no such thing as "Never". Not having seen the letter itself, I can nevertheless imagine several scenarios where a post-Jun21 car may have legitimately had a chrome grille installed. That said, though, I'm sure that Ford would have taken all reasonable steps to insure compliance with the directive. Miscommunication happens, with or without important reasons to comply. Alan proxie35 05-16-2011 @ 2:17 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 74 Joined: Jun 2010 No Offence Intended Jim, But as a retired Master Senior Judge with AACA, I realize that many on the judging teams NEED to be educated & tested from time to time. Sherrel Thomas jfarrell 05-16-2011 @ 1:21 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 46 Joined: Oct 2009 I don't mean to be confrontational, but I would hope you would share any new information you have rather than "test" the judges. One of the reasons for the existence of this forum is to share information and to help those who need it. I know I've learned an awful lot from the forum -- and the volunteers who quickly respond to my questions. Jim Farrell proxie35 05-16-2011 @ 8:06 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 74 Joined: Jun 2010 jfarrel, I spoke with Cecil yesterday & gave him the info. I have on this matter. I posted this to test efv8 judges. All 49s produced before June 21,1948 had the Chrome Speaker Grill. This is from Service Letter M15 sent to dealers Aug.14,1948. Cecil wasn't aware or this Memo. Sherrel P.S I'll post the memo later. jfarrell 05-16-2011 @ 7:17 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 46 Joined: Oct 2009 If I were you, I would check with the '49-51 adviser Cecil Goff before painting your speaker grill because last I saw, some early '49s supposedly came from the factory with chromed speaker grills. Jfarrell nelsb01 05-16-2011 @ 5:15 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 982 Joined: Oct 2009 Yes. All speaker grilles in 1949 Fords were either painted dash color in passenger cars, or woodgrained birch in station wagons. proxie35 05-15-2011 @ 11:55 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 74 Joined: Jun 2010 I have 49 2dr. built june 2, 1948 with a chrome speaker grill. Will I loose points for this speaker grill. Sherrel

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