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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / ? About 59AB water pumps

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trjford8
04-10-2011 @ 8:30 AM
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I use the pre-dissolved.

thirtysixford
04-09-2011 @ 10:18 PM
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PLT11 pelletized or c16 pre-dissolved


35gal
04-09-2011 @ 8:20 PM
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There are so many types of barr's leak. Can someone give me a part number or item number. I'm sold on it.

kubes40
04-09-2011 @ 3:39 PM
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Moxie, have any friends that are service technicians for GM? They will tell you that nearly all new cars get the stop leak treatment.
Also, Cadillac engines from not that many years ago as a matter of course would get this treatment each & every time they were serviced for ANYTHING at a GM dealership. Why? They were prone to leak and it was a quick (never mind 'shady') way to keep things tight. At least long enough to get the car through warranty.
Oh yeah, it happens and it happens all the time...

thirtysixford
04-09-2011 @ 3:32 PM
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MOXIE... Here you go.

http://www.barsleaks.net/barsstory.html

supereal
04-09-2011 @ 3:02 PM
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The stop leak is added to new engines to prevent any small leaks that may occur inside the block, not the radiator. These could be from a gasket, pin hole in the casting, etc. As hard as we try to assemble an engine with zero leaks, they happen. Even today, with the advent of sealer in the place of gaskets in some places, and "torque twist" head bolts, tiny leaks do happen. Adding stop leak is a preventative measure that doesn't affect the integrity of the system. Any leak that is visable should be repaired, but any internal seepage would go unnoticed until it resulted in damage. It is likely a 100% reality that any vehicle that you bought new contained the sealant. I doubt any salesmen know that, or would say so, if they did. With today's extended warranty periods, the manufacturers are not taking any chances.

MOXIE
04-09-2011 @ 12:04 PM
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Radiator stop leak in new cars. Where do you guy's get your information. If I was about to buy a new car and the salesman said they put barr's in, I believe I would walk away. As for me, it would be the last thing on my list to put in my old ford radiator if I had a leak. It's just a band-aid fix.

supereal
04-08-2011 @ 8:17 PM
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Barr's is a long time producer of sealers. We use it on all new engines, as did the "authorized" rebuilders who shipped a jar with each engine. It is now sold in a number of formulations, including one with metal flakes. We prefer the original type.

Stroker
04-08-2011 @ 3:49 PM
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I've had good luck with Barr's leaks. My family grew and processed almonds in Central California and we used to sell the almond hulls to Barr's by the truckload during harvest.
So, I'd assume the active ingredient contained , (at least in the 40's-70's), the fiber found in those hulls. The Navy used Barr's leaks in the first nuclear sub, after they discovered a condensate leak on their way to the North Pole. I'd say though that using any more than one jar on a fresh rebuild, or pump change-out could create problems. The modern version with the little cylinders of solids sure beats the stuff we used in the 50's. With that version, you had to dig the stuff out of the bottom of the jar with a screwdriver.

thirtysixford
04-08-2011 @ 1:32 PM
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Some years ago a Bars rep. came into my store and gave me a demo.

He had two coffee cans with holes punched in them. He put water in each and of course it leaked out. He then added Bars Leak to one and Alumiseal to the other. They both stopped the leak right away. He then poured the contents of each can through a strainer and the Alumiseal had expanded into a huge blob of metalic goo that would not go throuth. The Bars leak went right through the screen, nothing left.

He sold me....

As the others have said, it's in most new cars from the factory.

Mike

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