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oldford2

09-28-2011 @ 2:46 PM

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Wrong battery caps??? You guys are going off the deep end on this post. John

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09-28-2011 @ 1:10 PM

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Mike, Yes, that's something that needs to be clarified more often than not. As accessory brochures and owners manuals need to be ready to put in glove compartments as the new cars go out the door, there are many instances where substitutions were made, such as gear shift knobs and the like. There was also a photo shoot car that apparently had no wiper motor mechanism, the wipers being parked wrong on the windshield (Don't ask me which ones, I'm winging it here).

Truth in advertising. We wonder how so many parts can be wrong. We wonder why we are the first to have a problem. And we wonder if the suppliers think we are stupid. Who was it a couple weeks ago that said "gee, it fits the fiberglass hood perfectly"

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09-28-2011 @ 9:49 AM

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Hey Stroker,
You know I am one of your fans and have learned a thing or two (or 100)from you.
I agree with most of what you state in regard to parts that were often replaced.
My problem as many have learned through my public pronouncements is the fact many companies (Drake, Antique Auto Battery, etc.)claim quite 'loudly' that they produce factory authentic reproductions when in fact they do not.
I am strongly convicted to 'truth in advertising'. Something that seems to be open for interpretation amongst many companies. "Truth" is NOT open for interpretation. Either it is or it isn't - period. Mix in the drive for profits and it seems this (truth in advertising) really gets the back seat.
Quite respectfully,
Mike

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09-28-2011 @ 9:43 AM

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Hey Alan, You hit the proverbial nail on the head in regard to staged photographs.
During my research for the upcoming '40 book I come upon this type of photo all too often. That is one of the many things that make the research difficult, separating fact form fantasy

Many restorers as you well know use this type of photo to 'prove' something within their restoration perspective. Couple that with sales brochures and yet another 'fantasy' (artist renderings) shows its face.
Respectfully,
Mike Kubarth

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09-28-2011 @ 7:40 AM

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Alan:

I stand humbly corrected.

Dan

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09-28-2011 @ 7:32 AM

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Antique Auto Battery has been sending out the wrong caps for many years. It's never been an issue to most unless working on a deadline, as they hav e al;ways been happy top send the right ones ...and don't bother to send back the wrong ones. It's just their policy to not get involved in anything but making batterys, and Dan, it is a very good battery, better than original. The Optima , of course, is superior in performance but not in the game in aesthetics.

As for explaining the body drop picture, that's an easy one! This is a staged picture for publicity. Notice how it takes three assemblymen plus a foreman to drop the body? They wanted to make sure tat the oval/script was prominant for the picture.

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09-27-2011 @ 3:17 PM

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I think that some of our obsession over being "period-correct" is just that. I have never known an original lead-acid automotive battery to last 73 years, and I would hope that no rational person
would either. The same goes for such expendable items such as radiator hoses, tires, belts, bulbs, etc.

Isn't it a bit of a fantasy to insist upon cloning these expendables? I'm as much a fan of not
altering the durable parts in our early Fords as anyone, but to insist upon using fake reproduction
components that are often inferior to the original in all respects except appearance seems a bit
ludicrous.

I'll take a good quality 6 volt battery over someone's "script" any day.

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09-27-2011 @ 1:35 PM

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Mike: How do you explain the original Ford assembly line "body drop" photo on page 8-1 of the 38/39 book showing a 39 Deluxe with the battery facing toward the fender.

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37coupe, Nope, you are not the only guy to have trouble with them. My friend ordered a battery for his '39 standard last year. After I told him of my experience, he was certain to detail what he needed to the gal at Antique Auto Battery. Still, they got it wrong. They made good with him but it took some insistence.

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I thought I was the only one who had trouble with this same issue from Antique Auto Battery right here in Ohio,at least that is what they told me.A few years ago I ordered a Ford script battery from them with a 6 volt Optima inside and when it came negative post was on the right and positive was on the left to correctly show the Ford script. They insisted this was correct and I had to show them proof from my 37 owners manual picture,so they finally made it work. I told them what was the need of paying extra for a Ford script if it will be hidden against firewall. Even though my 37 is not a Dearborn car especially with the 59AB I wnated it to look good.They told me later they would not correct this again and they could not make individual year batteries or "special order" , I suggested they start moulding script on both sides,still never looked correct to me the fake bars on top Ford script faces to rear but original may have been that way.

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