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Posted By Discussion Topic: 2 questions on 59-AB -- page: 1 2     oldford2 01-28-2011 @ 5:54 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 275 Joined: Oct 2009 42guy, Richard, Verizon scr*w*d up my email last month and I lost all my contacts. Please send me an email. Thanks. John oldford2@verizon.net supereal 01-28-2011 @ 9:22 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 John: Yes, they are listed in the green book as a "silencer", but do function as a check valve in case of a backfire. A backfire thru the intake almost always damages or destroys the power valve, as well, a good reason to use starting fluid carefully. If I didn't have the correct part, I'd construct a vacuum reservoir from a large tin can, such as for juice, and insert it into the wiper line to both increase wiper action, and to absorb some of the "kick" if there is a backfire. The fitting that holds the "silencer" is important, as it allows vacuum to enter the "banjo" on the line to the distributor. As to the question about distributor set up, yes we do it, but recommend that the distributor be sent to Skip Haney, as he has all the parts necessary for the job on hand. We have to disassemble the unit, then determine what we need, order them, hoping none are backordered, particularly the shaft, then find time to get at it. Skip is a pro and can be contacted at skip@fordsrus.com, or 941/637-6698. 42guy 01-27-2011 @ 7:30 PM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 108 Joined: Oct 2009 Those valves are getting as scarce as hen's teeth. I see them on E bay once in a while and aren't cheap. 42guy 01-27-2011 @ 7:30 PM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 108 Joined: Oct 2009 Those valves are getting as scarce as hen's teeth. I see them on E bay once in a while and aren't cheap. oldford2 01-27-2011 @ 5:00 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 275 Joined: Oct 2009 Super, That is interesting. I did not know the function of the "valve" on the manifold was protection in case of a backfire. Don't know why, but I thought is was to silence vacuum noise from entering behind the dash. Thanks for your input. John thirtysixford 01-27-2011 @ 3:52 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 210 Joined: Oct 2009 Thanks Supereal..... I have seen in posts from past years, your shop does distributor set-up. Would like some info on that. PM me supereal 01-27-2011 @ 1:51 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 The banjo fitting fits over the shank of the windshield wiper check valve at the base of the carb. The valve prevents damage to the wiper motor in the event of a backfire. It is called a "connector", and I believe it is # 11A-17595-A. I didn't find it listed in any of our catalogs, so perhaps someone out there knows a source. From your description, it sounds as if someone just threaded a tee into the port on the intake manifold. For lack of a better solution, we sometimes just give a plastic fitting a shot of semigloss black paint to make it less noticable. supereal 01-27-2011 @ 1:21 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 The banjo fitting allows the vacuum to be provided via a hollow bolt, as I recall. thirtysixford 01-27-2011 @ 12:26 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 210 Joined: Oct 2009 Thank you for the reply. I suspected what you said about the fuel pump shaft, but thought I'd get a second opinion. I ordered the vacuum line and also the 490-251 which is the nut I was talking about that screws into the timing cover. Apparently there is no ferrule needed. The picture on C&G's site looks like the line, 21a-12226 has a "banjo" fitting at the manifold end. Is this correct? I also have a vacuum line that goes to the windshield wiper motor that is currently connected to the same manifold port as the advance line with a plastic "Tee". Any advice as to how to make this look more original? Thanks for your help Supereal! supereal 01-27-2011 @ 10:24 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 The important spec on the fuel pump rod for your 59A is the length. It should be 8.87". I suspect that someone brazed material on the end of your rod to increase the stroke of a weak fuel pump. As to the distributor vacuum line, you will have to replace it since it was cut. Order a 21A-12226. C&G has them, with fitting, for about $11. Also order the distributor end fitting, 490-251, $2, and the rubber grommet that seals the distributor body to the cover. The vacuum "snubber" system on your car isn't really vital because today's fuel is higher octane, but you should avoid any vacuum leaks between the carb and the timing cover to prevent idling problems.

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