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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Pike's Peak

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coftbird
12-12-2011 @ 7:27 PM
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Glad to see you made it Henry. So that is at least two of us.
Charlie

Old Henry
10-16-2011 @ 8:38 PM
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I've had two flats recently caused by heavy rust and corrosion on the rim where the tube rubs inside. Had to grind the rims smooth on the inside and paint them to smooth them out to stop that.

Old Henry
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supereal
10-16-2011 @ 7:53 PM
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Failure of tube stems is almost always due to the shifting of the tube and/or tire on the rim, causing the rim to cut the stem. As said above, many, if not most, tire places seldom see tubes. At our shop, we send the job to a truck place. Even so, tubeless radials are becoming standard truck items, as well. Be sure the rim beads are cleared of rust and crud before you send them out.

Stroker
10-16-2011 @ 3:23 PM
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I believe you are "on-to" the valve stem problem being related to improper installation, as very few modern automotive tire shops have experience with tubes. Here in the heartland, most rural tire shop personnel do enough truck and tractor tube-type tires become competent, but the "Walmart Tire-Lube-Express Associates" do not. I like to
inflate the tube without the core in place before I seat the outside bead, in order to
prevent pinching the tube and to ensure that the valve stem is centered. I then let
most of the air back out, and seat the outside bead.

You took the "safe route" with fixed jets, as while I'm sure repeatedly "field-stripping" your 94 wasn't fun; at least you didn't fry any valves or hole any pistons.
In addition, as Chuck Berry once put it: "Motor cooled down, the heat went down & that's when I heard that highway sound" (Mabelline, ca 1956).

Stroker
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Double post deleted.

This message was edited by Stroker on 10-16-11 @ 3:53 PM

Old Henry
10-16-2011 @ 1:35 PM
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Why two valve stems broke is a mystery to me. They were both new tubes put into new tires just mounted. I don't know the difference in the size. I'm pretty sure they were the original standard size. What I did learn, however, while watching a couple of high school kids trying to put the tube in the last tire I had repaired, is that very few tire stores will even do anything with a tube and those that do hardly know anything about them. After watching these kids try to figure out how to get the tube into the tire I had to take over and show them. Then I had to emphasize to get the valve stem centered in the hole so that there would be no stress on it. Otherwise, they would have probably messed it up like I'm figuring was done mounting them before that caused them to crack and leak. My 2 cents.

Old Henry
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This message was edited by Old Henry on 10-16-11 @ 1:39 PM

blarge
10-16-2011 @ 1:27 PM
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Old Henery: Did the tubes in your 47 that failed the valve stem have the old style big diameter valve stem design or the modern small dia valve stem that is now being sold by Corker and others? Can you think of why you had two valve stems go bad on your trip to Pike's Peak? Bill Large

Old Henry
10-16-2011 @ 1:26 PM
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I very seriously considered the adjustable ones and knew where to get them but, like you said, I wanted to be more precise than I thought I could be with them having had no experience with them and not knowing how to adjust them. They would have been easier but not as precise. I might not have even been able to get close enough in my adjustments of them to work at all. I was also hoping that maybe I wouldn't even need to do anything with jets - that I might lose power and have to just creep up to the top without changing anything but I wasn't so lucky. When the mixture went bad it was just like pulling the choke out all the way - died a choking death and could not be started again until new jets put in.

Old Henry
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This message was edited by Old Henry on 10-16-11 @ 1:29 PM

Stroker
10-16-2011 @ 8:52 AM
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Old Henry:

Now that was a great read! I'm kind of curious as to why you didn't go with adjustable
main's though, as while your method is more precise, and probably safer, the adjustable's would have saved a lot of time.

Congratulations to you and yours! "Bravo Zulu" as they'd say in the Navy. The absolute
repudiation of the "trailer queen" mindset.

Dan

Old Henry
10-15-2011 @ 8:29 PM
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Well, we did it! Made it to the top in the '47 Ford Fordor on July 7th this year. For more details and photos click here: http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19141

Old Henry
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