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1937 Ford locking hood handle.
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HOTROD_WILLIE |
04-01-2014 @ 12:06 PM
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Has anybody else done business w/ James Harrell if so please let know. PM would be great. Thanks for the help.
This message was edited by HOTROD_WILLIE on 4-1-14 @ 12:08 PM
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37 Coupe |
08-26-2010 @ 5:19 AM
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Thanks Bob,I have sent you email.
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Lincoln |
08-25-2010 @ 3:16 PM
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I disassembled my NOS 78-18385 Locking Hood Handle and looked at the internals as a comparison to what you described. The lock cylinder and stem you describe seem identical to mine. The inner cylinder of the lock is notched out to engage the upper end of the stem. The stem's upper end measures 3/16 " diameter and contains a small pressed-in pin to engage the lock cylinder. The stem is what also engages the two ball bearings in the lower part of the handle. At first glance the lock cylinder looks similar to other FORD lock cylinders, but do not think they are the same. My lock cylinder is marked "FM",which is not the typical early-FORD series of lock numbers. Does your key match the cylinder? Sorry my handle is not for sale, but it would also need rechroming for the purist. Plus the base itself is broken. I have seen one or two other NOS handles over the years and they also suffered with bad? chrome. They had very small pits, were scratched, scuffed, etc. If you need any more info 37 COUPE, you can Email me at idalinc@windstream.net. Lincoln.
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37 Coupe |
08-25-2010 @ 8:01 AM
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I guess I am stuck with the "NOS" hood ornament with no response from seller. I am placing a wanted ad again for a 1937 hood locking ornament for parts one I got ripped off on is missing part under and attached to locking cylinder itself. I did my best to get resolve without mentioning or dragging seller name in the mud but feel I should warn others especially since he told me he would be selling off some things. His name is James Harrell from Dallas reg group #6. He is still not what I would call a scammer but I believe his idea of what is NOS and a good part is not what I believe. He says he has health issues and I believe that,and think that is why he may be selling stuff, just be carefull and buy only what you see first,do not go on his word like I did.
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08-18-2010 @ 7:37 PM
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37 coupe, it sounds like you tried to handle this in a reasonable way. Obviously the seller is not wanting to go along with your solution. I would check with other V-8ers in the sellers area and ask about his reputation. I would also want to know if he is in poor health.Like the others, it sounds like he is giving you a B.S. story. Maybe another V-8er in the area would be willing to help you.
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37 Coupe |
08-18-2010 @ 12:48 PM
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More years ago than I like to remember was probably my only other situation as this,it was with a business called "NOS Gold",guys name was McCormick I think. He had me for $100 and just happened to be at the Valley Forge V8 Club meet swap area selling.He got belligerant when I confronted him and told me I was upsetting his teenage son. The guy running swap meet I think was Bob Guetschow from Michigan,anyway he knew the situation and how this guy was operating,his buying techniques from widows was worse than his "selling" tactics. Guetschow knew he was selling and making money and had the $100 easily to pay me,the swap meet guys told him to pay up or leave and he paid up. This was no skin off the V8 Club as it had nothing to do at there meet but this is the way it was back then guys trying to do right by a fellow member. At banquet I went up to get an award and it was mentioned by MC I was a rare case to have gotten money back from the notorious, at the time, NOS Gold. think the guy eventually did time.
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08-18-2010 @ 11:34 AM
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37 Coupe, I'll tell you how I handled a similar situation some years back: I had responded to an ad in Hemmings, to a man in Long island New York, who told me of all the spare parts he had available in his collection. Hw was a long time V8 member, and we got along well on the phone until he got my money, at which point he never had time to talk to me nor to find my part to send me. I looked him up in the V8 Roster, and yes, he was a member. I then found three other members in his vicinity who all knew him. I told them my story, and by golly, a couple days later I got a call from the seller who had miraculously found my part and it was in the mail.
Alan
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37 Coupe |
08-18-2010 @ 10:39 AM
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I don't think it was a scam from the git go, I think in his mind this was something he bought at a flea market years ago as NOS because of the original box.I would say of the three chrome pot metal pieces two of them are used and need replating,the handle itself could be NOS but again useless functionally as guts are missing,it would also need plating from shelf wear bumps and nicks. I also realize from having these in the past,this was a $2.50 item in 1937 and probably not plated to last even in good storage. to me a scammer is like the guy who responded to my classified want ad on this forum before my V8 Times ad,he had a whole case of them,how many did I want to order? Guess where he was from ? Thought I was safe with a Texan who tells me over and over again how many years he has been a V8 Club member of standing. I have been a member myself for almost 40 years but don't have his credentials or collection. Sure different than another Texan I know as we all do Stacy Brown,when I restored my 46 coupe back in 1971-72 he would send me parts on "approval".
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08-18-2010 @ 10:13 AM
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I'm with you Supereal - I smell the odor of fish.
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08-18-2010 @ 9:40 AM
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Maybe I am just jaded, but that sounds like a scam to me. The "NOS" sellers have come out of the woodwork, it seems. They want us to take them on faith, but will not reciprocate by sending the item for approval, even with a third party handling the payment.
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