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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / 37 Phaeton windshield wiper problems

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BRL
07-14-2023 @ 8:59 AM
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Hi Zeke3:
Thanks for the comment. Yeah, I dont think the hole is supposed to be there after looking at a couple of old photos of 1937 open cars. I have ordered Eastwood's "No-Weld Hole Repair Kit" to fill it and route the hoses and wires through that oblong hole in center of firewall. I am putting in a new dash harness, wiper vacuum hose and firewall pad so this is the time to make the fix.

zeke3
07-13-2023 @ 6:09 PM
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I have experience with two 1937 Ford closed car dash panels, (aka firewalls), and have not seen the extra hole shown in your photo on either. I think it has been added.

BRL
07-13-2023 @ 10:40 AM
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Hi Guys:
I have finally got around to looking at my wiper motor now that my radio is out of the car. Inspection under the dash indicates the motor control rod was not connected to the dash switch...and the little rubber grommet was not to be found. So I removed the entire wiper assemblies and tested the motor by sucking on the vacuum barb connection and the motor seems to work fine as does the control rod mechanism. All the linkages and arm towers seem to work freely so I am in the process of ordering new tower gaskets, correct attachment hardware, wiper blades, vacuum hose, and intake manifold vacuum pipe/nut. The one question I have for 1937 model guys is: where should the vacuum hose go through the firewall? In literature I have, the vacuum hose shares the firewall hole with the dash harness and oil temp sender pipe...on my car I have a second hole where the vacuum hose and oil temp sender pipe pass through...see attached photo. Was this hole added by a previous owner?

Jacques1960
10-31-2021 @ 10:10 AM
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One question I have is whether replacement paper Trico gaskets should be installed dry or lightly oiled?

Robert/Texas
10-31-2021 @ 7:00 AM
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About 20 years ago I installed an NORS windshield wiper on my '34 roadster. It worked for about a year and then stopped working. Someone suggested that I spray some penetrating oil into the inlet. That worked then and still does.

Jacques1960
10-28-2021 @ 3:00 PM
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Good motoring !

BRL
10-28-2021 @ 8:57 AM
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Hi Jacques1960:
Yes, I have understood from others that the windshield wipers are ineffective compared to todays standards. I have also heard that the side curtains are hard to see through when it is raining. I have no intention of driving this car in any rain or cold weather. Other than making everything correct and working on this car, my motivation to getting the wipers to work are to pass my state's safety inspection to classify the car as a "classic" so I can drive it any time and anywhere I want. Right now, the car is classified as an "antique" and no safety inspection is required, but I am very limited as to where/when I can drive it legally.
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BRL
PS: your Phaeton looks great; good color for this model!

JayChicago
10-27-2021 @ 11:52 AM
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When I got my car the wipers would not move. Car had been rarely driven for decades. I got under the dash and removed the linkage from the motor. With a little lube the linkage seemed fine. But the motor would not move even with good vacuum applied. On advise from TomO and others on this forum, pulled the motor, dropped a few drops of light oil into the motor and gently forced it thru it's movement to free-up and lube the internals. Wipers have worked just fine ever since.

There was easy access on my car. No radio. If your car has a radio, access to the wiper motor may be blocked by the radio.

Jacques1960
10-27-2021 @ 7:05 AM
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My ‘36 Phaeton

Jacques1960
10-27-2021 @ 7:04 AM
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Btw, I never intentionally drive any of my vintage cars in the rain and know from experience that, when caught out, the wipers are not really effective in comparison to today’s (I am being generous). Making them operable is part of the repair / restoration process and must be viewed as its own reward lest you ever be tempted to test the system in actual rain.

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