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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / 1937 ford, what am I looking at here?

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Junglejim
03-11-2021 @ 8:02 PM
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I have a 1937 ford fordor that I am currently working on, I took the tail light lenses off and see this? I'm trying to trouble shoot why my lights are so dim. What are the original tail lights supposed to look like? And can I upgrade these to LED on a 6 volt positive ground.
Jim

1937 Ford model 78 fordor

1931 Flamingo
03-12-2021 @ 5:49 AM
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To me possibly somebody already added a ground for the same problem you have. Ck and see what voltage you get when brakes or lights are on. Some people paint the inside of the housings white. Other's "scavenge" a reflector from the inside of a flashlight and put it behind the bulb.
Also, after verifying voltage they do make 6V LED bulbs that will swap in.
Paul in CT

trjford8
03-12-2021 @ 6:10 AM
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Someone has added replacement light sockets. I suspect your problem is poor grounding. Get a long piece of wire and put alligator clips on each end. Clip onto the socket and then clip onto a clean spot(you may have to sand a clean spot to bare metal) on the frame. Then try the light.

37RAGTOPMAN
03-12-2021 @ 6:15 AM
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37FORD
check your grounds from taillight to the chassis,
is that blue wire running to the body,?
I would use a temporary jumper lead from taillight to the chassis and see if that will make a difference,
also your bulbs look old, and do not look like the CORRECT ones for a taillight, are they 63 ?
are they the correct candle power for a taillight ?
should be 2 filament ? 1 FOR PARK and 1 FOR STOP LIGHT
paint the inside of the taillights silver or white.
the old reflectors from old flashlights are a good tip,
hope this helps 37Ragtopman ,Maine

40 Coupe
03-12-2021 @ 6:15 AM
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There has been some modification and the addition of a second light bulb most likely for directional signals.

Mr Rogers
03-12-2021 @ 6:59 AM
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The grounding clip doesn't look like it is very clean. Rust?

TomO
03-12-2021 @ 7:16 AM
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Someone has modified the tail lights and replaced the original light sockets. You did not give enough information to get good advice on how to fix your problem.

It looks like 1 bulb is for the tail light and the other bulb is for the stop light and neither bulb looks like it has enough brightness for the job.

I would look into replacing the socket with the one that Bob Drake sells for 1940 parking light conversion to turn signals. Then I would paint the inside of the housing bright white or chrome. Then you can use the LED bulbs that use 6 volts POS ground. You must make sure that the brake light bulb is centered in the lens.



Tom

Junglejim
03-12-2021 @ 8:38 AM
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Thank you, yes it appears someone added something in, the blue wire does ground to the body. I am not sure where these lights are from, so I could not tell you what year they are. From my research it originally would be two filaments in one bulb. Does anyone have a picture of what that looks like originally? Also what does the wiring look like underneath? Can one of you take a picture of your crossover wiring harness?

1937 Ford model 78 fordor

37RAGTOPMAN
03-12-2021 @ 9:48 AM
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jim
you could also have problems in the light switch on the bottom of the steering column,
check the brass contacts , also made be corroded ,
how old is the wiring ? if the brake lights are dim it also could be the brake light switch,
you have mechanical brakes or hydraulic ?
hope this helps 37 Ragtopman
if you need any wiring I recommend RHODE ISLAND wiring,
use correct gauge wire, comes with DIAGRAM and a PHONE NUMBER
you get what you pay for, DO IT ONLY ONCE,,,
if you run into problems

This message was edited by 37RAGTOPMAN on 3-12-21 @ 10:36 AM

Junglejim
03-12-2021 @ 10:23 AM
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So I have cleaned the light switch, contacts are good, the wiring of the body harness is covered in cloth, but towards the back regular plastic coated wire is there, which is why I would like to see what it looks like underneath an original car. Mechanical brakes, I removed and cleaned the brake light switch as well. My thought is that the replacement halogen bulbs draw to much power and causes most of my issues. Rhode island is a great resource however those prices seem a bit steep.
Jimy

1937 Ford model 78 fordor

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