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1937 ford, what am I looking at here?
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51woodie |
03-17-2021 @ 4:59 AM
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I bought a full harness from Tyree for my '51. It was top quality, had all the connectors, and each harness came with an instruction sheet.
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Junglejim |
03-16-2021 @ 1:37 PM
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It appears the driver side tail light is original and the LH is not. What I would like to see is what the cross over harness looks like?
1937 Ford model 78 fordor
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TomO |
03-13-2021 @ 7:39 AM
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The wiring harness for the tail and stop lights is cloth covered, just like the ones to the headlights. You should have a black covered wire for the tail lights and a green covered wire for the stop lights. The third wire in the harness is for the fuel gaugeThere is a harness that comes from the light switch back to around the filler pipe and then another harness that feeds both side of the tail lights. This drawing shows how the harness is laid out. It shows all of the connections and where the clips are to hold the harness to the frame. http://vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/FH_images/FH_electrical-pics/Flathead_Electrical_wirediagram1937car.jpg If Rhode Island is too pricey for you, Tyree Harris provides quality harnesses for more reasonable prices. His contact information is on this web page. Look over the rest of the site while you are there. http://www.fordv8foundation.org/Friends.html
Tom
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trjford8 |
03-13-2021 @ 7:25 AM
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Check with Sacramento Vintage Ford 1-888-327-5988. They make some very good wire harnesses and they are less expensive than some of the others. I have used them on several occasions and they work well. You can also purchase dual contact sockets to repair your existing tail lamps or purchase new reproduction tail lamps. Your existing lamps do not appear original to me.
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mfirth |
03-13-2021 @ 4:43 AM
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I tried both l e d & the "extra bright" on my 52...6v +ground. The extra bright ones were "wired" backwards. The dim filament lit when brakes were applied and the l e ds were dim. Put the original bulbs back in & painted the body white. Worked fine. I also added a 3rd stop light on top of the package tray in the back window. Worked 4 me.
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Junglejim |
03-12-2021 @ 10:23 AM
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So I have cleaned the light switch, contacts are good, the wiring of the body harness is covered in cloth, but towards the back regular plastic coated wire is there, which is why I would like to see what it looks like underneath an original car. Mechanical brakes, I removed and cleaned the brake light switch as well. My thought is that the replacement halogen bulbs draw to much power and causes most of my issues. Rhode island is a great resource however those prices seem a bit steep. Jimy
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37RAGTOPMAN |
03-12-2021 @ 9:48 AM
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jim you could also have problems in the light switch on the bottom of the steering column, check the brass contacts , also made be corroded , how old is the wiring ? if the brake lights are dim it also could be the brake light switch, you have mechanical brakes or hydraulic ? hope this helps 37 Ragtopman if you need any wiring I recommend RHODE ISLAND wiring, use correct gauge wire, comes with DIAGRAM and a PHONE NUMBER you get what you pay for, DO IT ONLY ONCE,,, if you run into problems
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Junglejim |
03-12-2021 @ 8:38 AM
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Thank you, yes it appears someone added something in, the blue wire does ground to the body. I am not sure where these lights are from, so I could not tell you what year they are. From my research it originally would be two filaments in one bulb. Does anyone have a picture of what that looks like originally? Also what does the wiring look like underneath? Can one of you take a picture of your crossover wiring harness?
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TomO |
03-12-2021 @ 7:16 AM
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Someone has modified the tail lights and replaced the original light sockets. You did not give enough information to get good advice on how to fix your problem. It looks like 1 bulb is for the tail light and the other bulb is for the stop light and neither bulb looks like it has enough brightness for the job. I would look into replacing the socket with the one that Bob Drake sells for 1940 parking light conversion to turn signals. Then I would paint the inside of the housing bright white or chrome. Then you can use the LED bulbs that use 6 volts POS ground. You must make sure that the brake light bulb is centered in the lens.
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Mr Rogers |
03-12-2021 @ 6:59 AM
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The grounding clip doesn't look like it is very clean. Rust?
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