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Posted By Discussion Topic: 59ab front timing cover/oil pan rope seal -- page: 1 2     pauls39coupe 02-14-2021 @ 9:40 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 205 Joined: Jul 2014 You are right. We have been using the Black RTV sealer on the rope seals. Permatex on the rail gaskets and front cover, but I assume it would work on the rope seals also. Paul oatycorb 02-13-2021 @ 1:01 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 59 Joined: Oct 2020 Thanks Paul, that makes more sense. One thing comes to mind tho, when I installed the graphite rear main seal (Best Gasket brand) the instructions specifically say NOT to get any sealer on the rope ends, but rather to sparingly apply a very thin layer of black RTV to the mating surfaces of the rear main cap and the block around the areas where the rope seal protrudes just a bit. This is how I did mine so I hope that's going to be okay 'cause I'm not taking it back apart if I can help it! pauls39coupe 02-13-2021 @ 12:45 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 205 Joined: Jul 2014 Oaty, I have always trimmed the pan rail gaskets to the outside edge of the rope seals. Cut the rope seal proud of the block and pan by just a bit, use the guide that came with the "Graftite" rear seal or use a popsicle stick for a guide. Dope the ends with Permatex like Ragtopman suggested. We have been using the one piece front seals on spirial grooved or plain cranks with no leaks. Choose your poison. 37RAGTOPMAN 02-13-2021 @ 10:40 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1958 Joined: Oct 2009 hi Steve Lee How could you install the seal seams at 10 and 4 ? I never heard of that, do you slide the seals around in the cover and the oil pan, while trying to install the oil pan, ? I cannot tell you how many MODEL A engines ,and V8 FLATHEAD engines that I installed the seals at 9 and 3 and never had any major oil leaks, if installed like explained, you wipe off the seals ends and apply #2 permatex and all comes together, just make sure the pulley has no rough surface so does not tear up the seals ,you could polish it a little, my 2 cents 37Ragopman oatycorb 02-13-2021 @ 8:34 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 59 Joined: Oct 2020 Oldmagnet, thanks for the info! Because I'd have to have some machining done to my pulley for this to work I think I'll just go with a carefully installed rope seal. I've heard that some people have had great success with the one piece seal and some who still had leaks. sarahcecelia 02-13-2021 @ 8:17 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1183 Joined: Mar 2013 NEVER INSTALL THAT SEAL, OR THE REAR MAIN SEAL, ON THE OIL PAN, WITH THE JOINTS AT 9 AND 3 -O'CLOCK!! (PARALLEL TO THE FLOOR) YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO LEAK, AND THEY WILL LEAK!! They should be positioned with the seams at 10- o'clock , AND 4- o'clock. Regards, Steve Lee oatycorb 02-13-2021 @ 8:16 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 59 Joined: Oct 2020 Thanks 37ragtopman, this is very helpful! So is it correct that the pan gasket is sandwiched between the upper and lower halves of the rope seal when the oil pan is bolted down? That's what it looks like when I lay the pan gasket on the oil pan, which kind of doesn't make sense to me because that wouldn't allow the rope seal to contact the pulley hub 360 degrees around in my mind. Also, if I soak the seals in oil will the #2 permatex still adhere to the ends of the seal? Sorry for all the questions, I've been a car and motorcycle mechanic for most of my life but all my experience has been with post 1960 vehicles so this 1930's stuff is all new to me! 37RAGTOPMAN 02-13-2021 @ 6:47 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1958 Joined: Oct 2009 front timing cover if you use the original rope seals, soak them in oil for a few days, then use a socket about the side of the pulley shaft and tap them in to seat them leave about 3/16 on either side, and use #2 permatex on the mating surfaces, draw down on the pan bolts a little at a time, it works for me, just remember if you have to remove the oil pan, if you used the rubber o ring seals it might tear, and you will have to do it all over again, hope this helps, 37 Ragtopman Old Magnet 02-12-2021 @ 9:56 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 7 Joined: Oct 2020 Follow these instructions.... https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-trp-001&ei=UTF-8&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=trp&p=flat+head+ford+front+seal+installation&type=Y143_F163_201897_102620#id=1&vid=6428ea47e2543e40796276ed89e02cd2&action=click 51woodie 02-12-2021 @ 8:26 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 510 Joined: Jan 2017 I could be wrong, but I believe there is some machining required to use this type of seal set up.

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