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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Steering Box Ajustments

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Fhower
05-10-2020 @ 6:50 PM
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h*llo.

I am not an expert. but here is what I did. That said is really helpful to have some a help turn the wheel while you are under the car and there is weight on at least one wheel. You look for play at the pitman arm, drag link, tie rod ends and the steering box and steering box bracket. I saw my bracket flexing and replaced the bolts. THEN adjusted the sector gear. What was tight was now loose. I noted that there are opportunities for play throughout the linkage. Sounds like you have the sector gear sorted. Replacing the worm requires a good press and a good block to hold the shaft. I did replace the bearings and races , worm gear, sector gear and shaft. If yours was as mine it was full of cooked gunk. Good luck

sarahcecelia
05-09-2020 @ 5:49 PM
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Ray Marler, was a Ford mechanic at 17 years old! He's up in my years now, about 83-84 years of age, I phoned him this morning, and went over the process, and he said I did every thing right!! He also said , some of the parts are from China, and are "JUNK", and to put Silicone Sealer on the leaking gasket!!

Regards, Steve Lee

sarahcecelia
05-09-2020 @ 8:50 AM
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You are right, the stuff that comes from China is real cr*p!!

I put a brand new cork gasket in my sector housing, and IT LEAKS!! It was about 1/64th smaller than the recess that it fits in; so I had to put Permatex on ot so it wouldn't fall out when I put the sector housing back on!! If that gasket was sized right, it would fit that recess and stay put!!

I spoke with Ray Marler,(He was a Ford mechanic in the early 1950's), this morning about it and he said to put silicone on it so it would not leak gear oil out of the steering box!!

Regards, Steve Lee

sarahcecelia
05-09-2020 @ 8:36 AM
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Tom-
You are right on your statement about screw that adjusts sector end play! I did it again (the whole scenario) by the book, and it says to do that adjustment. FIRST!
Now I got to thinking about it; and realizes that it has nothing to do with the sector moving up or down. Rotating the bottom cover just engages the sector gear into the worm more when moved clock wise, and less when move counter clockwise! It does not move the sector shaft up, or down!
Talked to Ray Marler this a. m. ,former Ford mechanic in the '50's; He said the gaskets are junk, and to put silicone on it to stop the leak!

Regards, Steve Lee

1931 Flamingo
05-09-2020 @ 5:59 AM
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Did you get the new sector in the right position (I believe it gets pressed on)?? Are the tie rod ends tight?? 10" way too much.
Paul in CT

sarahcecelia
05-08-2020 @ 6:02 PM
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Tom, I've gone through the proceedure 3 times now, and BY THE BOOK!! still, "NoCigar!!" Look at my reply to Ragtopman.

Regards, Steve Lee

sarahcecelia
05-08-2020 @ 5:56 PM
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Tom,
the sector is seated properly, as evidenced by the lower adjustment plate mating to the sector housing WITH NO GAP AT ALL, where they mate up and when the four bolts are tightened! With that being said, why does the NEW GASKET leak at the front right corner? ! (The lowest point of the 4 corners) The cork gasket was a little smaller than the circumference of the recess that it fits in, causing me to put Permatex on 2 small areas of it to keep it from dropping out onto the floor of my garage!

Please read my other posts about this problem, that I made today, to see if you have any answers to them.

Regards, Steve Lee

JT Ford
05-08-2020 @ 1:50 PM
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I have read in past V8 Times from the modurator on the 49 -51 cars that some of the steering part from china or just as bad as the old worn out ones. And, I have read that SOME of the parts are OK. My two cars could use a rebuild but I think I will just get by with the old ones!

sarahcecelia
05-08-2020 @ 12:40 PM
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Tom,
Play in the sector looks, by eye, to be 1/64th" , looking at the end of the sector where that large nut is that holds it on. The steering wheel only goes on it's shaft in ONE position, Right?,and I had it in the STRAIGHT AHEAD POSITION when I installed the new sector ; but I have about 1/4+or so, more turns to the right , than I do to the left?? Do you think that the sector might not centered (midway)on the worm?If so, how could that have happened? Is it possible to install the sector off a tooth or so (on the worm), causing me to have a little more turns one way than the other??

Regards, Steve Lee

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sarahcecelia
05-08-2020 @ 12:21 PM
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The Ford repair manual only tells how to "set it all up" while it is in the car. The worm looked okay; but looking at it by eye, you probably won't see wear on the worm unless the is a lot and/or it is uneven. As I previously stated, the omly problem is: at full right or full left, ot takes about 8-10 inches of steering wheel turn to move start the wheels back to the straight ahead position.
I took my 1957 Corvette for a ride after adjusting the brakes, and I noticed that it has a little steering wheel play like my '50 Ford does, When the wheels are in a left or right turn, but not as much as the Ford. An old friend, that knows these Fords well,said that is the way they were designed?

Regards, Steve Lee

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