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Posted By Discussion Topic: 1934 Body Number??? -- page: 1 2     Steve34FORD 10-22-2009 @ 4:48 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 18 Joined: Oct 2009 Well I thank everyone for their input and most of their knowledge. I guess I will have to make up some thing for the body plate. thanks to all. Steve 42wagon 10-20-2009 @ 1:50 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 585 Joined: Oct 2009 Steve There seems to be a bit of confusion regarding the information you are looking for. I hope that I can clear up some of it. I am not an expert on 34s, far from it, but here goes. 1. There is no connection between the body number and the engine number. The sequential engine number was assigned at the Rouge engine plant long before the engine was mated with a body. At the assembly plant the engine number was transferred to the frame and became the car identification number. No additional numbers were added to identify the body. 2. In 1934 it appears that Ford used bodies built by Murray and Briggs. The only bodies indicated in the book "The Classy Ford V8" to have been built by LeBaron were the Sedan Deliveries. This book indicates that the Fordor bodies were built by Briggs. It is my understanding that although several body builders were used, Ford would have contracted with one of them to produce all bodies of a specific style. Whether Ford built some of the Fordor bodies in their own plants is unknown to me. At any rate the book says that 102,268 Deluxe Fordors were built. 3. What records were kept were sketchy and a this late date probably impossible to reconstruct. Therefore the suggestion made by someone else is good. From the frame serial number determine approximately where in the production run your car falls. Then arbitraily assign a body number. To be correct you will need a Briggs body tag. To the best of my knowledge the body number only appears on the tag and not somewhere else on the body. Hope this information helps and doesn't further confuse the issue Ted trjford8 10-20-2009 @ 7:45 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 4218 Joined: Oct 2009 Here's a list of companies that made bodies for Ford; Murray,LeBaron,Budd, and Briggs. These companies made Ford bodies during the 20's and 30's. All these comapanies made a variety of body styles. Knowing Ford's history for looking for the "best deal" from a supplier it may be tough to determine who built the body for a specific body style. As Moxie stated the information(records) are very sketchy or non-existant as most of these body companies supplied bodies for many different car makers. jerry.grayson 10-19-2009 @ 2:19 PM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 128 Joined: Oct 2009 I am going to see if my memory is correct. Others have posted the fact that ford made some bodies and others made some. Ford made 2dr and 4dr and they did not have a body plate. The 3w coupe, open cars and station wagon were made by others and had a body plate. Your 4dr should not have a body plate. MOXIE 10-18-2009 @ 3:12 PM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 102 Joined: Oct 2009 In my opinion the information you are looking for does not exist. At lease I could not find anything when I was looking to put a number on my car body. What I did was, by using the 33/34-restoration manual, I found how many coupes were made. Then I got the frame number and again, using the restoration manual found that the car was assemble June 1934. June is half way thru the year so I took half of the number of coupes that were made and used that number for the body number. Anybody got a better idea. NATESBPD 10-18-2009 @ 10:28 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 31 Joined: Oct 2009 another pic NATESBPD 10-18-2009 @ 10:25 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 31 Joined: Oct 2009 Ok,, i dont have the old body plate.. how do you know which body u have? LeBaron or Budd? NATESBPD 10-18-2009 @ 10:21 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 31 Joined: Oct 2009 Ok,, i dont have the old body plate.. how do you know which body u have? LeBaron or Budd? trjford8 10-17-2009 @ 8:52 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 4218 Joined: Oct 2009 The serial number/VIN number is strictly a sequential chassis production number. The body number was placed on the body(firewall) by the outside manufacturer of the body. Not all bodies were built by Ford. Ford used bodies that were made by LeBaron and Budd.Each had it's own numbering system for the bodies. NATESBPD 10-17-2009 @ 4:57 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 31 Joined: Oct 2009 I agree with what Moxi said.... The pic in the book shows the 730 and then LB then a 4 number serial number. I thought that the body number might be somewhere on the body or the last 4 of serial number on the frame..im just not sure.

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