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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Wiring harness supplier

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TomO
12-06-2018 @ 2:49 PM
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Bob, thanks for updating with John's reply. I am still learning after over 40 years in the Club and having several cars in the early 1950's.

51-woodie, I don't believe that the seash*ll horns were standard on any 1946 Fords. The horns were introduced in the late summer of 1947 and relocated from the left fender to in front of the grill.

The other changes that go with the resister on the coil, is the location of the horns, and the circuit breaker being replaced by a headlight relay.

The early 1947 models were identical to the 1946 models and I seem to be the only one that says that the bar on the trunk first appeared on the early 47 models and the stainless bars around the handle disappeared. Some people say that occurred on the 1946 models.

Tom

51woodie
12-06-2018 @ 10:25 AM
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TomO. Not to get sidetracked from the original post, but I have a late '46 Super Deluxe that has seashe*l horns, and the resistor is up under the dash. Would this be because the car was late year '46, and close to the transition to the '47 model be the cause of the horns/resistor combo that I have? Would it be the 21A cowl harness I would have?

Bob-93021
12-06-2018 @ 9:42 AM
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I definitely have a late 47. Horns in front of radiator, ign. switch on the dash, no toggle switch and coil resistor is mounted on coil rather than under dash. Still has the window bugs that read Oct 47.
Just received a email from John McDonald our 46-48 advisor that the harnesses were in fact built with vinyl and cloth coverings! Still learning these old Fords. Thank you all for your inputs - Bob

TomO
12-06-2018 @ 6:59 AM
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There were 2 harnesses for the 1947 Ford. The Green Book defines them by the light switch, I like to define them by the horns. The 21A harness was used on 1942-1947 cars with the trumpet horns and the ignition resister on the firewall, the 51A harness was used with the seash*ll horns and the ignition resister on the coil.

Tom

Bob-93021
12-05-2018 @ 10:43 PM
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Took a look at harness on ebay. Harness looks like mine with the cloth and vinyl mixed. The second pic shows the instruction sheet. That sheet looks identical to the one that came with mine. Makes me think they came from same vendor. I contacted my harness supplier and they graciously agreed on refund if I was not pleased with it. I was pleasantly surprised since they say no returns on electrical parts. Anyways, I will double check with our 46-47-48 advisor before sending it back. Thanks - Bob

Bob-93021
12-05-2018 @ 10:28 PM
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Took a look at harness on ebay. Harness looks like mine with the cloth and vinyl mixed. The second pic shows the instruction sheet. That sheet looks identical to the one that came with mine. Makes me think they came from same vendor. I contacted my harness supplier and they graciously agreed on refund if I was not pleased with it. I was pleasantly surprised since they say no returns on electrical parts. Anyways, I will double check with our 46-47-48 advisor before sending it back. Thanks - Bob

trjford8
12-05-2018 @ 4:47 PM
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There is a 47-48 harness on e-Bay that is a new reproduction. It does have a mix of cloth and plastic wrapping. It's being sold by a vendor on the east coast and he is pretty knowledgeable about the correct parts for certain years.

Bob-93021
12-04-2018 @ 9:58 PM
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Thanks guys, Having the mix of vinyl and cloth puzzled me. My existing loom has cloth visible in some places. Previous owners have covered some of cloth with vinyl for repairs? I will check tomorrow about returning the harness. Hope I can. It is a fair amount of work to swap it out so I want it looking as correct as possible. Tom, I am a current EFV-8 member - with roster. I should have checked with John McDonald before ordering the harness. Thank you - Bob

TomO
12-04-2018 @ 9:36 AM
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Check with John McDonald, the Club's 1946-1948 Adviser. He lives in Portland, OR and is listed in the Roster.

I am not sure if vinyl tape was used in 1947, but I think it was later. The photos that I found on the internet show all cloth wrapped harnesses.

Tom

ken ct.
12-04-2018 @ 6:00 AM
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Both you mentioned are the best,you just picked the wrong supplier. They both are good and correct. Send the other back. ken ct OMO X2

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