| Bob-93021 | -- 12-03-2018 @ 1:46 PM |
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I am working on a 47 Sedan. I know I will need to rewire most of the car at some point. I just purchased (West coast supplier) the main dash harness planning to install over the Winter. What I received seems of good quality however the outer coverings over the wires are a mix of what looks like original woven cloth and vinyl? wrapping some other sections. Just does not seem right. If it was all vinyl I might not question it. I am trying to keep original in looks and function as best I can. My original harness is functioning but many sections of original jacket have been splices, repaired and wrapped over with vinyl tape. Should I return this to supplier and look for another supplier. If so, who makes the most correct harness for my 47. I did see Tyree and Narraganset recommended in other threads. Thank you - Bob
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| LarryK | -- 12-04-2018 @ 5:05 AM |
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I recently replaced my dash and engine harness (1939 Deluxe Tudor) with one supplied by Tyree Harris. It appears to be as-original with respect to color coding, materials, and wrapping. No vinyl. No problems with the installation. Major terminations soldered. Excellent workmanship. Larry
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| LarryK | -- 12-04-2018 @ 5:06 AM |
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I recently replaced my dash and engine harness (1939 Deluxe Tudor) with one supplied by Tyree Harris. It appears to be as-original with respect to color coding, materials, and wrapping. No vinyl. No problems with the installation. Major terminations soldered. Excellent workmanship. Larry
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| ken ct. | -- 12-04-2018 @ 6:00 AM |
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Both you mentioned are the best,you just picked the wrong supplier. They both are good and correct. Send the other back. ken ct OMO X2
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| TomO | -- 12-04-2018 @ 9:36 AM |
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Check with John McDonald, the Club's 1946-1948 Adviser. He lives in Portland, OR and is listed in the Roster. I am not sure if vinyl tape was used in 1947, but I think it was later. The photos that I found on the internet show all cloth wrapped harnesses. Tom
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| Bob-93021 | -- 12-04-2018 @ 9:58 PM |
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Thanks guys, Having the mix of vinyl and cloth puzzled me. My existing loom has cloth visible in some places. Previous owners have covered some of cloth with vinyl for repairs? I will check tomorrow about returning the harness. Hope I can. It is a fair amount of work to swap it out so I want it looking as correct as possible. Tom, I am a current EFV-8 member - with roster. I should have checked with John McDonald before ordering the harness. Thank you - Bob
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| trjford8 | -- 12-05-2018 @ 4:47 PM |
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There is a 47-48 harness on e-Bay that is a new reproduction. It does have a mix of cloth and plastic wrapping. It's being sold by a vendor on the east coast and he is pretty knowledgeable about the correct parts for certain years.
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| Bob-93021 | -- 12-05-2018 @ 10:28 PM |
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Took a look at harness on ebay. Harness looks like mine with the cloth and vinyl mixed. The second pic shows the instruction sheet. That sheet looks identical to the one that came with mine. Makes me think they came from same vendor. I contacted my harness supplier and they graciously agreed on refund if I was not pleased with it. I was pleasantly surprised since they say no returns on electrical parts. Anyways, I will double check with our 46-47-48 advisor before sending it back. Thanks - Bob
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| Bob-93021 | -- 12-05-2018 @ 10:43 PM |
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Took a look at harness on ebay. Harness looks like mine with the cloth and vinyl mixed. The second pic shows the instruction sheet. That sheet looks identical to the one that came with mine. Makes me think they came from same vendor. I contacted my harness supplier and they graciously agreed on refund if I was not pleased with it. I was pleasantly surprised since they say no returns on electrical parts. Anyways, I will double check with our 46-47-48 advisor before sending it back. Thanks - Bob
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| TomO | -- 12-06-2018 @ 6:59 AM |
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There were 2 harnesses for the 1947 Ford. The Green Book defines them by the light switch, I like to define them by the horns. The 21A harness was used on 1942-1947 cars with the trumpet horns and the ignition resister on the firewall, the 51A harness was used with the seash*ll horns and the ignition resister on the coil. Tom
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| Bob-93021 | -- 12-06-2018 @ 9:42 AM |
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I definitely have a late 47. Horns in front of radiator, ign. switch on the dash, no toggle switch and coil resistor is mounted on coil rather than under dash. Still has the window bugs that read Oct 47. Just received a email from John McDonald our 46-48 advisor that the harnesses were in fact built with vinyl and cloth coverings! Still learning these old Fords. Thank you all for your inputs - Bob
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| 51woodie | -- 12-06-2018 @ 10:25 AM |
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TomO. Not to get sidetracked from the original post, but I have a late '46 Super Deluxe that has seashe*l horns, and the resistor is up under the dash. Would this be because the car was late year '46, and close to the transition to the '47 model be the cause of the horns/resistor combo that I have? Would it be the 21A cowl harness I would have?
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| TomO | -- 12-06-2018 @ 2:49 PM |
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Bob, thanks for updating with John's reply. I am still learning after over 40 years in the Club and having several cars in the early 1950's. 51-woodie, I don't believe that the seash*ll horns were standard on any 1946 Fords. The horns were introduced in the late summer of 1947 and relocated from the left fender to in front of the grill. The other changes that go with the resister on the coil, is the location of the horns, and the circuit breaker being replaced by a headlight relay. The early 1947 models were identical to the 1946 models and I seem to be the only one that says that the bar on the trunk first appeared on the early 47 models and the stainless bars around the handle disappeared. Some people say that occurred on the 1946 models. Tom
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