Post to the EFV-8 Forum
Post Classified Ads
Shop the Online Store

User Login

Not Registered Yet? Click Here to Sign Up!

Early Ford V-8 Club Forum

FORUM RULES: Users agree to these Rules when using Forum.

The site administrator reserves the right to change the terms and conditions of the user agreement without prior notice to the user. It is the responsibility of the user to regularly review the terms of this agreement.

The user agrees to the following terms:

All information that you provide to us for your membership is correct.
You will not use your membership to spam, harrass, or exploit other members in any way.
Vulgar, Abusive, Racist and Sexist Language will not be tolerated.
Commercial-type sales postings will not be allowed.
No mass posting or flooding of the boards is allowed.
No Advertising of parts or cars; no Ebay or business/commercial ads (please use the "Classified" for ads Wanted or For Sale).
VIEWING MULTIPLE TOPICS ON SCREEN: You can choose to see more than 10 Topics at a time ... Log In and choose "Preferences" from the top bar on the Forum page. Scroll down and Change the "Default Topics Returned" parameter to 25 or 50, and save the changes. Since this setting is stored in your browser 'cookies' (if enabled), it seems to use that stored value even if you are not logged in. So, if you use a PC that you haven't logged into the forum from, the setting still seem to remain at the default.
EXTERNAL PHOTO LINKS ON FORUM: You can still use external photo links in your posts on the new forum. They follow the rules of any link in that they have to have the URL link qualified down to the full image file name (example: .jpg). The links will open in a new browser window, the same as an uploaded image attached to a post. Since an image attachment to any post does not display inline with the post, the results are the same. You can use multiple external links within a post. This link is from photos on a site from Don Clink's 'Deuce@75' albums:

http://donclink.com/deuce_75_1/images/dscn2950.jpg

Using links from photo sites such as Photobucket can help in "size" issue with uploaded attachment files. For best viewing in web browsers, photos should be around the 800x600 pixel range, and probably not more than 1024x768. Most cameras today store HUGE jpg image files, as the default settings are in the 7, 8, 10, and 12Mb image sizes. The image files that are then attached are very large, and the browser can't display the full image size without using the scroll bars. Use the re-sizing functions of your photo editing software to reduce the image to 800x600, which reduces the file sixe and the image load time in the browser. Don uses Google's free Picassa3 software, which is an excellent photo management product. All of the photo albums of the Deuce, Grand National, and Auburn that are links on the NORG site were built using Picassa's web creation functions. And it's free? (THANKS to Don Clink for the info!)
HOW DO I SHOW MY EMAIL ADDRESS ALONG WITH MY USERNAME? You can LogIn on the Forum, and select PREFERENCES. On this page Members can add optional information such as their City,State, Country; Occupation; Hobbies: list a Homepage; list AOL Instant Messanger Handle; Signature; "Make Email Address viewable to others;" and even change the number of Default Topics shown on a page. WHEN others click on your profile, they will see this information.

EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / New Fuel Pump

Reply to Discussion | New Discussion

<< previous || next >>

Posted By

Discussion Topic: New Fuel Pump -- page: 1 2

Bob56

08-01-2017 @ 11:01 AM

reply profile send p.m.

New Member
Posts: 120
Joined: Jun 2012

I changed the fuel pump to the correct one for my 1936. Now it will not start. If I put gas directly in the carb it starts until it is burned off. Do I need to prime the fuel pump some how?

Bob56

08-01-2017 @ 1:23 PM

reply profile send p.m.

New Member
Posts: 120
Joined: Jun 2012

I haven't touched the rod. attached is a picture of the old pump

This message was edited by Bob56 on 8-1-17 @ 1:26 PM

Bob56

08-01-2017 @ 1:25 PM

reply profile send p.m.

New Member
Posts: 120
Joined: Jun 2012

the new one. Somebody on another forum suggested the rod might have to be changed. since I have no clue looking for some guidance

len47merc

08-01-2017 @ 1:33 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 1165
Joined: Oct 2013

Bob56 - how long did you turn the engine over to try to start it? I've seen it take three rounds of 10 seconds cranks separated by 2 each 30 second starter cool-down periods before one would pump the fuel from the tank to the carb. Using full choke, or an assistant fully covering the carb with his hand (not advisable but...) will utilize the vacuum of the engine to pull it through more quickly as well. Let us know - if you've tried longer than this then next steps...

Steve

40cpe

08-01-2017 @ 2:00 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Member
Posts: 477
Joined: Jan 2010

A couple of starts by pouring gas in the carb should be enough to get the pump primed. Not knowing your mechanical experience, did you make sure the push rod is in the pump cup on installation? You can remove the fuel line from the flex hose, put your thumb over the end of the hose, crank the engine and feel for a vacuum. If you don't feel a suction at the hose it can't pull gasoline.

carcrazy

08-01-2017 @ 3:21 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 1674
Joined: Oct 2009

Are you sure there is gasoline in the fuel tank? If so, try spraying a little starting fluid into the air cleaner intake to get the car started. It may take up to three applications to get the pump primed and the engine to run on its own. If this fails to get the fuel system primed, then its time to check other things out. Remove the fuel pump and check to see how far the fuel pump pushrod moves up and down when the engine turns over. The travel amount needs to be enough to make the pump work.

ken ct.

08-01-2017 @ 5:31 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 1513
Joined: Jan 2010

Sorry to inform you but that is NOT a correct pump for 36. Other poster showed a correct early 36 pump. Later 36 pumps are slightly bigger but not glass bowl ones. I have 1 rebuilt 36 pump like in the other pic. ken ct. 1-203-260-9780

deluxe40

08-01-2017 @ 7:11 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Member
Posts: 413
Joined: Oct 2009

I have been changing these pumps successfully for almost sixty years. Nevertheless, I had the same problem you are having last month when I changed the pump on my '40. The problem was that I missed the rod with the cup on the pump lever. It seems that the cups on the new pumps aren't attached to the lever as firmly as they once were. The solution for me was to take the pump off, rotate the engine until the rod was in the upmost position, place the cup over the rod and pull straight back a little to be sure it is seated. Then start one bolt and swing the pump down until the second bolt hole lines up. (I have always put the rod in the lowest position because it made lining up the bolts easier, but that didn't work this time.)

40 Coupe

08-02-2017 @ 4:31 AM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 1679
Joined: Oct 2009

The fuel pump you have was used until approximately July of 36. So most of the 36 production used the style you have. I notice an unusual top bolt and gasket under it. To make sure the pump is developing proper vacuum to draw fuel in consider wrapping the upper cap to the die cast body with some electrical tape and if it then pumps fuel remove the tape. Sometimes if the top to body gasket is cork it can shrink and cause air to leak in preventing the pump from developing vacuum. Usually the cork gasket will swell up after fuel is in the pump and it will work well. Make sure the upper bolt is tight but do not over-tighten.

ken ct.

08-02-2017 @ 6:46 AM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 1513
Joined: Jan 2010

The correct early 36 pump is in pic posted at 1:25 pm. I have 1 left. ken ct.

<< previous || next >>

PAGE: 1 2

NOTE: YOU MUST BE A REGISTERED USER AND BE LOGGED IN TO POST (and reply to) messages in this forum. If you are a first time user, please click the CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT in the masthead above to register and Log In. After that, all you do is LOG IN to enjoy using this site.

DISCLAIMER: The V-8 Club does no independent testing of any of the opinions, thoughts or suggestions presented in the website on the Forum, in the Tech Tips section, or any section. A reader should consider the website to be a forum wherein differing solutions to a particular set of circumstances may be discussed. Ultimately, the selection of an item for an individual's vehicle must be based upon the independent study of the vehicle owner in consultation with people in the hobby and restoration experts.

Early Ford V-8 Club Forum

Merchandise Questions

Membership Questions