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Posted By Discussion Topic: 35 or 37 Motor -- page: 1 2     haro 09-24-2017 @ 8:42 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 4 Joined: Aug 2017 What years did the 21 stud flatheads have aluminum heads & intake? Thank you for your help. JM 07-30-2017 @ 5:35 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 822 Joined: Oct 2009 The '37 to early '38 21 stud engine is actually the best of the 21 stud flathead engines based on improved cooling, insert mains, and thicker cylinder walls that can be safely bored up to 3-3/16" diameter. John This message was edited by JM on 7-30-17 @ 5:38 AM doghair3 07-29-2017 @ 7:06 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 13 Joined: Apr 2016 Thanks again to everybody who took the time for the feedback. 1934 Ford 07-29-2017 @ 5:19 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 573 Joined: Oct 2009 Doghair3, Don't dispair, your 35 car with a 37 engine could last a lifetime with that later model engine with insert bearings. A real Early Ford guy might never notice the blockoff plates on the block, once they see the water pumps on the heads. It has been a common repair fix for 80 years now and you'll find lots of other early Ford V8's with the same fix if you look. If this engine performs well, forget it an enjoy the car as is. It's still a 35 Ford to me. 1934 Ford's since 1972 Stroker 07-29-2017 @ 9:21 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1460 Joined: Oct 2009 This discussion about 37 engines is particularly interesting; as there were so many configuration changes made from the period 36 to 41 with things becoming pretty much settled down until 1949 Kube has also contributed a lot of documentation on "optional" engines. in 1940, which makes the subject even more fascinating. Here's an example of a question I've sought an answer to for many years. My dad bought my 38 Ford Deluxe Station Wagon NEW. It was built at the Long Beach assembly plant, painted in "Spring Color" Desert Sand, and he ordered it with a Columbia overdrive, 4.44:1 gearing, (so he could pull his stock trailer in the mountains), a dealer-installed spotlight, leather front seat, radio but no heater, as he didn't care for the idea of heating the car with an exhaust heat exchanger. Dad was a San Bernardino County Deputy Sheriff as well as a rancher. I wasn't born until 1939, so I only "got to know" this car in the mid forties, and by then the engine had been replaced with a 59A. My older brother, however was old enough to remember when the car was new. Some years ago, he stopped by when I was installing another 59A in the car, and told me that the Stromberg 97 I had on it was "wrong", as dad had special-ordered the "truck engine" in this Station Wagon, and it came with a Chandler Groves. Brother said that the engine that came in the car was a 90 hp, rather than an 85. Nothing I had read regarding the specifications for Ford vehicles in 1938 would seem to make this plausible, although I was aware of the "running change" on carbs about mid-year and the switch from 21 to 24 studs that occurred about the same time. With all the options, the car "went out the door" for $1300, and I still have the cancelled check to that effect. That's almost $500 more that a 38 deluxe wagon. So, was brother mistaken, or is it possible that a law enforcement officer could "special order" a Station Wagon in 1938 with a 90 hp engine? I will probably never know "for sure", but oral history often has a "basis". Somewhere, I have the original invoice from the Ford Dealer in Pomona California. As I recall, it did not "itemize" any engine option, just listed all the "extras" like the leather seat, Columbia, radio, spotlight, etc. CharlieStephens 07-28-2017 @ 10:41 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 888 Joined: Oct 2009 MG has it right. Your block is a '37 (or maybe '38). Charlie Stephens This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 7-28-17 @ 10:42 PM MG 07-28-2017 @ 8:21 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1254 Joined: Nov 2009 It looks to me as though your car has a '37 engine with '35 cylinder heads.... It's a very nice car by the way.... doghair3 07-28-2017 @ 7:23 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 13 Joined: Apr 2016 Thanks to all of you who tried to answer my question. But I admit I'm a little thick up top. Based an what MG and Charlie said (if I understand them correctly) I can assume My motor is original to a 35 model. Right? I guess I need to get a good book (with pictures haha) My best to all. Tom H. MG 07-28-2017 @ 10:57 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1254 Joined: Nov 2009 MICHV8 - I've been told that they are British manufacture.... This from a Ford Barn Thread > https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=188996&highlight=1937+Cylinder+heads This message was edited by MG on 7-28-17 @ 11:20 AM MICHV8 07-28-2017 @ 9:33 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 428 Joined: Jul 2010 MG Did all the 37 heads have the firing order? I was once told that those were of a French manufacture...

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