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EFV-8 Club Forum / Light Commercial Truck Discussion / 1941 4 Cylinder pickup

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f1ford48
09-15-2010 @ 7:44 PM
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Hi Fellow Truck V8ers--I purchased a 41 4 cyl. pickup this summer. and now I am not so sure that it was originally equipped as so.the vin #9C 1944 is stamped on the frame top rail by steering box.[with a star on each end]firewall has another # ending in 44 but illegible. can anyone tell me what engine was originally in this truck? it also has a 4 speed with reverse lock-in. the tailgate is interesting in that it is the normal ''3 square'' design but with no FORD script-all 3 blank.any info would be highly appreciated

1932BB
09-16-2010 @ 8:56 AM
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It is not unusual to see the four cylinder engine in Ford trucks through 41. Serial number chasing does not tell you much about old Ford cars and even less about old Ford trucks. In the older big trucks, the K member on the frame was the rear mount for the transmission and therefore would be different and not fit a car transmission which would have been standard in a pickup. Does your truck have a car type or large truck rear axle? Car or truck (Budd) wheels? Having said this, it is not uncommon, especially here in the UP of Michigan to find trucks that were created from car parts to tea kettles just to get the job done.

supereal
09-16-2010 @ 11:47 AM
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The tipoff is the "9" in the number. The 4 cylinder engines used in '41 and '42 were virtually identical to the 9N Ford tractor engines, and shared many parts. The prefix 2NC was used. You can confirm if the truck had the 4 cylinder engine by checking the rear end gear ratio. The 4 bangers had the 4-55 ratio in the light trucks, if it had the original axle. The four cylinder trucks were not popular as they shared the 9N tractor's lack of power, and couldn't get out of their own way. Now, Ford has "gone back to the future" with the Turkish built "Transit" with a tiny 4 cylinder engine. Early reports say this truck is a throwback to the early 40's underpowered type.

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unclemark
09-16-2010 @ 8:25 PM
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Try to locate a small book written by Robert Towne some 25+ years ago called "tale of 2 trucks". This guy put a lot of effort and research into the 40-41 pickups that will prove to be very useful to you. There are some copies still floating around.

hope this helps.

Mark



f1ford48
09-16-2010 @ 8:45 PM
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thanks everyone for the input. it does have the 4.55 rear end. and a 60 mph speedo with shift pattern.the fuel line on pass front frame. spoon accelerator pedal is also linked to a throttle cable.
has anyone seen the tailgate with no FORD script-could it have been an aftermarket? all of the other hardware looks normal ford.[tailgate was ''blacksmithed'']

f1ford48
09-16-2010 @ 8:58 PM
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saw my first ''Transit'' on the road today.not a bad looking little vehicle.
to 32BB- my truck is the 1/2 ton commercial car? basically on a car chassis-car wheels and hubcaps.but a 4 speed that looks like its from a bigger truck. torquetube driveline. possibly an extra leaf or 2 on the rear spring.

ford38v8
09-16-2010 @ 9:24 PM
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Mark, I don't find such a book among my sources, nor is there a credit to Robert Towne of Hollywood fame for a work of that category. Would you mind checking your author and title again please?

Thank you,

Alan

alanwoodieman
09-17-2010 @ 8:52 AM
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Howard (not Robert) is from New Hampshire and I have a photo copy of his book-I owned the book, but someone else wanted it worse that I did $$$. I blew up the pages so they are easier for an old guy to read. I also have a picture of a 41 panel that was at the Atlanta V8 show a few years ago with a 4 cylinder engine from a tractor, even has a tractor radiator, rad cap etc. I have owned several 9N, 2N, 8N, NAA tractors so I recognized the parts.

ford38v8
09-17-2010 @ 9:48 AM
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Alan, Thanks, no cigar yet. The book must be pretty rare.

Alan

alanwoodieman
09-17-2010 @ 11:47 AM
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e-mail me direct sometime, I will copy book for you, if you have no luck finding one.
alanwoodieman@aol.com, alan48@charter.net

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