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mgbrewer |
01-10-2013 @ 1:17 PM
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...what else is new? Ha How can I tell if my 40 Ford is a 77-A or a 77-B. The explanation I have read only leaves me confused . In the book 90 Years of Ford both models are shown but I can't figure out the difference. And how can I tell the difference in engine size? Is there a number located somewhere that indicates the model and engine size? Can someone enlighten me?
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deuce_roadster |
01-10-2013 @ 1:46 PM
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Is your car all apart? Visually, there is quite a bit of difference between a "standard" or V8 77A and a Deluxe 77B. If you are dealing with a bare body, and a pile of parts, if it is complete you can still tell by looking at the dash, gauges, hood, grille, color of knobs and probably many other things Kube can identify. I think in general, the A suffix is associated with "standard" or V8 parts and the B denotes Deluxe. What descriptions are confusing to you?
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mgbrewer |
01-10-2013 @ 2:58 PM
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My car is completely finished and that is how I got it BUT it is not a Deluxe and the 77-A is a Standard as well as Type 77-B is a Standard. I think I have a 77-B but what is the difference between the two and how can I tell Refer to pages 218 and 220 in "90 Years of Ford". I have not been able to figure it out, that's why I am here.
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deuce_roadster |
01-10-2013 @ 4:28 PM
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Ive not seen the book you refrence. The 1940 Ford and Mercury Body Parts List published by the Ford Motor Company in July 1940 lists 77A as "Standard Coupe -5-window (112" wheelbase)" and 77B as "Deluxe Coupe 5-window (112" wheelbase)" I suspect there is a misprint somewhere, I guess it could be in the factory Ford publication. Maybe Mike Kubarth can chime in here.
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kubes40 |
01-11-2013 @ 7:14 AM
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mgbrewer, Deuce has advised you well. The book you are referring to is fraught with misinformation, certain to add confusion to many relying upon this source for their research. I have added a picture of the deluxe front end on this post and will add a similar picture (within a post to follow) of the Ford V8, aka: "standard". If you would like photos of the dash (deluxe and Ford V8) let me know.
This message was edited by kubes40 on 1-11-13 @ 7:16 AM
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kubes40 |
01-11-2013 @ 7:18 AM
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Okay, I managed to find a photo with both a Ford V8 and deluxe. Here it is... The 1940 Ford V8 is to the right, the 1940 DeLuxe to the far left. Between them is a 39 Standard.
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mgbrewer |
01-11-2013 @ 11:03 AM
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From the photos you provided I believe my car is a 40 Ford V8 on the right. I can't see the angle of the grill very well but it appears to be the same and the painted (non-chrome) headlight rims are the same. I assume this car is also referred to as "Standard?" I would really appreciate it if you could send a photo of the correct dash. I have all of the photos from when the car was found before restoration and I "think" it is the correct dash and components. Now how can I tell the engine size? Thanks for all your assistance. - Mike
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mgbrewer |
01-11-2013 @ 11:22 AM
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One more thing, does that make my car a 77-A?
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trjford8 |
01-11-2013 @ 1:26 PM
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Your car is in fact a 77-A
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kubes40 |
01-11-2013 @ 1:30 PM
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Attached is a photo of the dash area within a 1940 Ford V8 (aka: "standard"). Note the black mat is incorrect. If you have a Ford V8 COUPE model, then yes, it is a 01A-77-A. The BUSINESS coupe is model 01A-67-A. The business coupe has fold down auxiliary seats behind the front seat.
This message was edited by kubes40 on 1-11-13 @ 1:33 PM
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