Posted By |
Discussion Topic:
1940 Wagon Questions
-- page:
1
2
|
|
alanwoodieman |
09-14-2011 @ 8:17 PM
|
|
|
Senior
Posts: 868
Joined: Oct 2009
|
Dan aka Stroker thanks for the compliments, still working on the truck mirror arm project, have made a couple of prototypes, will get back to it this winter.
|
alanwoodieman |
09-14-2011 @ 8:13 PM
|
|
|
Senior
Posts: 868
Joined: Oct 2009
|
all cad plated, yes in Pa, at Hershey is actually where I purchased mine. I have been told that the company may have been sold to Ca. but if you are going to Hershey I would bet that they will be there. You may need hipwaders this year, they really had bad floods this month and a lot of busineeses were under water. I will find my number and let you know. My wagon is Lyon Blue, I think there is a wagon in Va. painted Acadia Green
|
deuce_roadster |
09-14-2011 @ 5:59 PM
|
|
|
Member
Posts: 284
Joined: Oct 2009
|
Alan, my car is a pretty late one. My body # is 10581 which puts it probably in June. You may have the answer to the seat track question! So early tracks are about 1/2" higher then the later ones? Glad I have both. Is that whole thing, both sides and the rod with gears all cad plated or just the sides? Due to the late # I have painted the sheetmetal Acadia green which I think will look good with the blonde wood. Thank you for that important information. Is the business in PA you refrence named "Restoration Supply" Do you know if they go to Hershey? I usually make the trip from out here on the Left coast (near Seattle)
|
alanwoodieman |
09-14-2011 @ 4:40 PM
|
|
|
Senior
Posts: 868
Joined: Oct 2009
|
checked the parts book Dated July of 1940 and there is an early seat track (2.47" in front) and a late seat track (2.10" in front) but no date given as to when the change occurred. I know my body was built in 3/40, what is your body number-located under the voltage regulator?
|
alanwoodieman |
09-14-2011 @ 11:30 AM
|
|
|
Senior
Posts: 868
Joined: Oct 2009
|
OK here goes and I did a lot of research including looking at several original wagons #1-seat mechanism- were cad plated, 39 seats are totally different-spare tire mounted on the seat, give me the measurements and I will double check with mine-I suspect deluxe seats had a different set of mechanisms that the regular V8-because of the different seat padding foam for deluxe #2 winterleaf brown-those pieces were painted off the body #3 top materiel #4 black straps-black brackets and black light bodys-yes I know I have also heard they were painted body color, but no real proof #5 Restoration supply in Pa is where I got mine
|
kubes40 |
09-14-2011 @ 6:36 AM
|
|
|
Senior
Posts: 3394
Joined: Oct 2009
|
Mike, I sent you two private messages. I am best reached (promptly) at kubes40@att.net
|
Stroker |
09-13-2011 @ 4:17 PM
|
|
|
Senior
Posts: 1460
Joined: Oct 2009
|
deuce_roadster: I'm very much into 38's, but there are many differences between 38-39 and 40's. 38-39's don't have tailgate springs, and they mount their tail light through the lower tailgate hinge/spreader bar which is grounded to the floorpan. In addition, the 38-39's mounted their front seat on a wooden riser, with the only adjustment being 2 holes to give you a choice of how far the bottom cushion was away from the rigid rear cushion. Regarding the window "felt" dividers, I sourced mine from Ed Clarke in Larchmont, NY some years ago. Ed has an ongoing ad in the NWC monthly newsletter. I'm hoping that Alanwoodieman chimes in at some point, as he has not only restored his "barn-find" woodie to great beauty, but actually manufactured some parts (rear seat-feet) along the way. Colors for interior hardware is a toughie. I was lucky enough to have some non-repainted original components to work from. As for the spring covers matching the top material, not all tops were the same color. We see an almost uniform brown top on most replacements, but in fact the top color was often coordinated with the body color. In my case, the body was Desert Sand, and the top was a dark "brownish" green. Hopefully, others will contribute other (more 40 specific) info.
|
deuce_roadster |
09-13-2011 @ 2:18 PM
|
|
|
Member
Posts: 284
Joined: Oct 2009
|
Ok, Stroker I am beginning to assemble a 40 deluxe wagon, hoping to have it ready for the 2012 Western National Meet which will be held in Redmond Oregon. 1. I have ended up with 2 sets of the brackets that hold the front seat to the floor. They are identical in every way ( but one), and bolt to the floor and seat the same, have the same adjusting lever, rod with gear etc. One would have the seat fairly level, the other the rear feet are noticibly lower then the fronts. I am guessing the set with the lower rear feet is the correct one for the 40 since this seat angle was an advertising point. Since there are some common parts on the 38-40 wagons, could the set where the front and rear feet are about the same height fit a 38 or 39? Could this be an early vs late thing and be correct for 40? I will sell the incorrect one but would like to correctly identify it. What color should the entire seat mounting mechanism be? 2. Is the tailgate hinge all Winterleaf Brown or does the part that bolts to the floor pan get painted either body color or primer like the rest of the floor? 3. My original tailgate spring looks like it was covered with top material. Is that what it should be and should it be brown like the top? 4. What color should the ground straps that go from the T nuts to the tail light brackets be? I know they have to be bare under the Tnut and bracket to make a good ground. Are the tail light brackets black or body color? Is the tail light painted or stainless and if painted what color? 5. I have the double channel glass runs for the sliders but who has the strips that go on the edge of the glass (end) of the inner windows between the 2 pieces of glass?
|
Stroker |
09-13-2011 @ 1:54 PM
|
|
|
Senior
Posts: 1460
Joined: Oct 2009
|
deuce_roadster: Why not just post your questions, and maybe Alanwoodieman, myself, or some other National Woodie Club member can help you. Dan
|
deuce_roadster |
09-13-2011 @ 11:04 AM
|
|
|
Member
Posts: 284
Joined: Oct 2009
|
Mike, can you answer questions about 40 wagons? I sent you a PM with some. You can respond to my questions either here or as a PM if you wish.
|