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EFV-8 Club Forum / 1940 Ford Discussion / 1940 fan belt

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std1940
07-25-2010 @ 1:38 PM
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Who has a correct reproduction fan belt with raised script part # for a 1940 ford 85hp std coupe?
Thanks Tom.

kubes40
07-25-2010 @ 5:00 PM
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Absolutely NO ONE reproduces a correct fan belt. The screen printed ones you most often see are incorrect as 1) the original belts had the numbers, etc. molded upon the belt, not painted and 2) the repop belts are too narrow thus ride in the pulleys too shallow.
You will have to search for a correct belt. On occasion they come up for sale. Expect $100+ for NOS.
1940 Fords built prior to early June, 1940 used belt #78-8620-A. After the early part of June the part number changed to 78-8620-C.
The "C" belt is a bit shorter to accommodate the smaller generator pulley that was placed into production at the beginning of June 1940.
VERY often you will see the incorrect pulleys on restored 1940 Fords. Be aware that the first design was 3 11/16" diameter and used until the beginning of June, 1940. The smaller (more easily found) pulley was 3 3/16" diameter and wasn't placed into production until June, 1940.
Hope this helps.
Mike Kubarth

40guy
07-25-2010 @ 5:43 PM
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What is a 78-8620-C3 for? I have one N.O.S. still in the FoMoco cardboard wrapper.

kubes40
07-26-2010 @ 5:44 AM
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C3 is simply a revision of 'C'. Length and width are no doubt the same. It may be possible it was a change in construction, etc.
I'd be interested in that belt if it is for sale.
Mike

40guy
07-26-2010 @ 8:05 AM
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I will sell the belt. Contact info: 336-627-4914. If I'm not here leave a message and I will call you back.

supereal
07-26-2010 @ 9:45 AM
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The wide vee belts depend on the angle of the sides to prevent slipping, and even if the length is correct, the angles may not be. If you try to overcome that problem by tightening the belt, it is likely that the water pump bushings will be damaged. Correct belts, particularly those with the "script" markings, tend to be expensive, and NOS belts may be very old and hardened by exposure to ozone. Many report that the "correct" belts don't fit. We buy ours from a local electric motor shop that has a big selection of lengths and pitches.

RG/NJ
07-26-2010 @ 1:15 PM
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I have a nos 78-8620-A 40 belt that i bought from carpenter at a Dearborn meet years ago.It did not fit, to tight. Is there any process to stretch the belt?
Thanks BOB

kubes40
07-26-2010 @ 6:19 PM
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The "A" belt SHOULD fit on a stock '40 with the 85HP. The "B" belt was for 1939 with an aluminum valve chamber cover. Those (B belts) will NOT fit a cast iron cover.

std1940
08-07-2010 @ 4:58 AM
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I did find a reproduction fan belt with raised ford script and # 78-8620-B3 from Dennis Carpenter.The look,fit and size work. It is made in China. Thanks for all the information about the fan belt. I am now looking for a correct radiator hose clamps and screws for my 40 std coupe.The ones that come with Bob Drake hoses do not seem to fit well on the themostat end of the hoses? Thanks Tom.

kubes40
08-07-2010 @ 6:11 AM
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Good to hear the repop belts (A type) fit the large pulley.
I never understood why it is apparently so difficult to make the hose clamps correctly.
They are as you suggest too small. I have a limited quantity of NOS clamps and when compared are definitely a larger diameter.

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