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kubes40

05-28-2021 @ 5:35 AM

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I had a little pack of them from a dealer I'd cleaned out, yikes, back in the late 70's as I recall.

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kube
i recieved your dipstick seal today thank you for you trouble where do you find something like that just in case i ever need another

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I just went out to my garage and checked the 2 fuel pump stand that I have. the bolt holes on both sides are open to the fill area.

Pech, you would probably better off to find the right stud and fitting for the fuel pump stand and make sure that the bolt hole is open to the oil fill area. When I had a filter on my car, I always had a small leak at the distributor bolt and it was a pain in the neck to r&r the distributor. The copper crush washers on both sides of the banjo fitting could only be used once, so each time you did a removal of the distributor, you had to replace the odd sized washers. Another reason to do this is to make your car Concourse correct.

You should also reverse the connections at the filter canister. The input for the filter is on the side and comes from under the oil pressure sending unit. The outlet is at the bottom of the canister and goes either to the fuel pump stand or the distributor bolt.

The story that I heard for the reason Ford made the change is: Many mechanics were installing the hollow stud into the fuel pump stand mounting instead of the fuel pump mounting resulting in no oil flow or oil coming out of the filter top because the pump stand studs go into a blind hole.

The distributor bolt goes through the timing gear cover, so the hollow bolt would allow the oil to drain into the oil pan.

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05-26-2021 @ 7:35 AM

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It appears that Jegs has several banjo fitting that will work. Next step will be to determine that passenger side of distributor bolt hole is indeed open to the crankcase. I assume it is, but . . .

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05-26-2021 @ 5:48 AM

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Pech, You have the line (incorrectly) going to the right side of the pump stand. Also, it appears you do not have the correct fitting at that point. That may, just may be why you have issues with the the oil leaking.

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05-25-2021 @ 9:11 PM

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The hollow bolt for the distributor has a hole drilled up through the center which intersects a hole drilled parallel to the head (sort of like a "T"). The bolt passes through a "banjo" fitting attached to the hose at the right side of the distributor. At least this is how mine is.

I don't know if either of the hollow bolts are available or reproduced (my father made the one that is presently in the car in the mid to late 1970's).

We had a devil of a time finding anyone with the knowledge about what the hosed with like, how they were connected, routed etc.

Mike's book didn't exist back then (it certainly would have been helpful-it still is now).

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My car was built June 3-27, 1940. The side oil hose from the filter goes to the left bolt of the fuel pump, the lower outlet goes to the oil sending unit. Anyone know if I remove the hollow bolt from the oil fill tube if it will work at the distributor? If not, is there a source for that hollow bolt? Looks like the hose will require a 90 degree fitting to avoid a big loop. I have oil seeping from the oil fill tube and have a gasket on the way.

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05-25-2021 @ 9:48 AM

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I stand corrected sir.

Thank you.

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RAK, You are describing the late routing. If I recall, that started around April, 1940.

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There are two correct routings of the return line for 1940.

The return line on mine connects to a banjo fitting, then through a hollow bolt on the right side of the distributor (I think this is the earlier routing). This is the routing per the diagram that TomO supplied in an earlier post on this thread.

You can see the return line routed through a clip under the mounting lug/nut for the generator (alternator, in this case).

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